Double Points @ Final Race

[andartop]

Will the teams also get double the money for the final race? Will the race be twice as long? Will they be allowed to use twice as many tires? And charge twice as much energy on KERS? Will tickets cost twice as much? So many questions! I'm so excited about this! In 2014 I am going to be watching twice as much F1!

[i70q7m7ghw]

Perez in favour of double points? What a tool. He has no concept of what F1 is, he didn't even want to be an F1 driver, he wanted to be a football player. He's in F1 for money, nothing else.

[tim|away]

Well spotted, Stradivarius. I have compiled the results into a few tables for those that are interested.

[AnthonyG]

I wonder: doesn't the double points rule encourage spending at the end of a season?

[timbo]

I wonder: doesn't the double points rule encourage spending at the end of a season?

Surely.

[Shrieker]

I wonder: doesn't the double points rule encourage spending at the end of a season?

It's always been a compromise, but there aren't any drastic rule changes happening in the following years; so until there's one, it's not a problem I guess ? Since you can carry what you do over to next year.

[langwadt]

I wonder: doesn't the double points rule encourage spending at the end of a season?

I'd say it encourages spending all season, you can't get just have a good car and get a good start of the season, you
have to keep developing and and copying all the others development or they might take the price when it really matters

[tim|away]

Number crunching time ....

I have looked at the last 23 rounds of F1 (1991-2013) and simulated what impact awarding double points in the last race would have had on the outcome of the WDC, and whether or not the WDC would have been determined at a later round in the season. Considering that all seasons before 1991 used a points scoring system that consisted of only factoring in the best results (see F1 points scoring systems), I am only taking seasons from 1991 onwards into account during which all races counted towards the final result of the WDC.

In 23 seaons since 1991, awarding double points in the last race would have extended the season 9 times, and the WDC would have gone to a different driver 3 times. We can therefore assume this new rule will come with a 39% chance of keeping up the suspense for at least 1 additional race, as well as a 13% chance to change the outcome of the WDC.

1991
WDC is determined in round 15 of 16 (no changes)
WDC is Ayrton Senna (no changes)


1992
old scheme: WDC determined in round 11 of 16
new scheme: WDC determined in round 12 of 16
WDC is Nigel Mansell (no changes)


1993
old scheme: WDC determined in round 14 of 16
new scheme: WDC determined in round 15 of 16
WDC is Alain Prost (no changes)


1994
WDC is determined in round 16 of 16 (no changes)
WDC is Michael Schumacher (no changes)


1995
WDC is determined in round 15 of 17 (no changes)
WDC is Michael Schumacher (no changes)


1996
WDC is determined in round 16 of 16 (no changes)
WDC is Damon Hill (no changes)


1997
WDC is determined in round 17 of 17 (no changes)
WDC is Jacques Villeneuve (no changes)


1998
WDC is determined in round 16 of 16 (no changes)
WDC is Mika Häkkinen (no changes)


1999
WDC is determined in round 16 of 16 (no changes)
WDC is Mika Häkkinen (no changes)


2000
old scheme: WDC determined in round 16 of 17
new scheme: WDC determined in round 17 of 17
WDC is Michael Schumacher (no changes)


2001
old scheme: WDC determined in round 13 of 17
new scheme: WDC determined in round 14 of 17
WDC is Michael Schumacher (no changes)


2002
old scheme: WDC determined in round 11 of 17
new scheme: WDC determined in round 12 of 17
WDC is Michael Schumacher (no changes)


2003
WDC is determined in round 16 of 16 (no changes)
old scheme: WDC is Michael Schumacher
new scheme: WDC is Kimi Räikkönen


2004
old scheme: WDC determined in round 14 of 18
new scheme: WDC determined in round 17 of 18
WDC is Michael Schumacher (no changes)


2005
old scheme: WDC determined in round 17 of 19
new scheme: WDC determined in round 19 of 19
WDC is Fernando Alonso (no changes)


2006
WDC is determined in round 18 of 18 (no changes)
WDC is Fernando Alonso (no changes)


2007
WDC is determined in round 17 of 17 (no changes)
WDC is Kimi Räikkönen (no changes)


2008
WDC is determined in round 18 of 18 (no changes)
old scheme: WDC is Lewis Hamilton
new scheme: WDC is Felipe Massa


2009
old scheme: WDC determined in round 16 of 17
new scheme: WDC determined in round 17 of 17
WDC is Jenson Button (no changes)


2010
WDC is determined in round 19 of 19 (no changes)
WDC is Sebastian Vettel (no changes)


2011
old scheme: WDC determined in round 15 of 19
new scheme: WDC determined in round 16 of 19
WDC is Sebastian Vettel (no changes)


2012
WDC is determined in round 20 of 20 (no changes)
old scheme: WDC is Sebastian Vettel
new scheme: WDC is Fernando Alonso


2013
WDC is determined in round 16 of 19 (no changes)
WDC is Sebastian Vettel (no changes)

[flynfrog]

I vote for a one race motor also allowed for the final race. I kinda miss teams decorating the front stretch with the insidey parts of the engine.

Let also allow multiple tire manufactures for the final race. I kinda miss proper tires

Lets not require switching compounds

also all cars are required to shoot fire out of the exhaust on over run.

Ti skid plates? Too much to ask

If they want to make it a spectacle make it worth our time.

[MOWOG]

2008
WDC is determined in round 18 of 18 (no changes)
old scheme: WDC is Lewis Hamilton
new scheme: WDC is Felipe Massa

On that basis alone, I now support this rule! =D>

Although making flames shoot out the exhaust would be wicked cool as well.

[langwadt]

2008
WDC is determined in round 18 of 18 (no changes)
old scheme: WDC is Lewis Hamilton
new scheme: WDC is Felipe Massa

On that basis alone, I now support this rule! =D>

Although making flames shoot out the exhaust would be wicked cool as well.

yeh lets have extra point for flamboyant driving, maybe add a drift trophy

[SectorOne]

Or a spin trophy for those rainy days Massa is forced to race an F1 car on the limit.

[langwadt]

Or a spin trophy for those rainy days Massa is forced to race an F1 car on the limit.

why wet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qYs9SM7WVk

I seem to remember Schumacher doing also doing a 360 in qualifying many years ago and the laptime wasn't too bad

[SectorOne]

why wet?

Because it´s more frequent, like Silverstone 08 where he must have broken some kind of record.

[timbo]

Because it´s more frequent, like Silverstone 08 where he must have broken some kind of record.

C'mon, that day was about wrong car setup. Massa won Brazil'08 that year in a mixed conditions and got podium in Korea 2010 under heavy rain.