Ferrari 2014 Car Pre-launch Speculation

[f1316]

AMuS wrote somewhere that the Engine Manufacturers are only allowed to Test their engines on stationary Rigs, not in actual test Cars.

If that is wrong I apologize.

@Holm: Right but the Engine Specs of F1 and LMP1 are not so far away, so a 2014 F1 Engine can be modified to fit the LMP1 rules. I was only talking about the Engine, not an actual LMP1 Car Test.

I don't think there is any regulation prohibiting them from testing the F1 engine in another car. It would just be to easy to say that its either a test engine for a new roadcar or another race series.

I'm slightly wary that this should be in the engine testing thread, but anyway why, if it is legal, would they not test the engine in a 2011 150 Italia, for example? I actually heard a rumour of that somewhere or other, but is putting it in a LaFerrari with four (dummy) exhausts not an example of Ferrari attempting to disguise what they're doing?

Of course, they could be trying to disguise it so that other manufacturers don't get to hear what they know is the real engine.

[Thunder]

in this article AMuS states that merc are already testing the new engine aswell. they do it in 'half a car'. so i'm pretty sure there is no rule against engine testing with a road car.

you can read the full story here: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 66855.html

Yeh but that thing is still "stationary". I don't know the exact rules but that is different from an actual driving Car.

But as already Pionted out thats going too far Off Topic. Lets Keep this Thread on the Ferrari 2014.

[timbo]

I'm slightly wary that this should be in the engine testing thread, but anyway why, if it is legal, would they not test the engine in a 2011 150 Italia, for example? I actually heard a rumour of that somewhere or other, but is putting it in a LaFerrari with four (dummy) exhausts not an example of Ferrari attempting to disguise what they're doing?

The engine is stressed memeber in F1 car, so installing different engine would require significant modification to the chassis. I suspect that LaFerrari mule has something like a subframe which allows for easier engine accomodation.

[Kiril Varbanov]

How Ferrari 2014 may look like, according to Piola:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBu0D2Aj8ok[/youtube]

[CBeck113]

Conservative, but pretty.

[turbof1]

To be honest, last time that Piola predicted a ferrari car, back then the F2012, he said the ferrari would have low nose, jetfighter-like sidepods at the rear, side impact crash structures turned into wing and... front pull rod. He was only right about the last one. I'll take anything from him with a pinch of salt.

[f1316]

I'm not sure he's even trying to predict the actual Ferrari car - rather just using it as an example of how the regulations enforce various changes to the general layout.

[Dream Theater]

I'm not sure he's even trying to predict the actual Ferrari car - rather just using it as an example of how the regulations enforce various changes to the general layout.

You're right.

Also in the new omnicorse article posted today, which featured the same pic (during the day they've updated the article with a Piola's video, deleting the pic), they clearly say:

"Nel disegno Effe 1 Tech è riportata solo un’ipotetica Rossa in linea con le regole del 2014, ma non rappresenta un’anticipazione della nuova Ferrari.", which translated into english means, more or less, that this is only a raffiguration about the new Ferrari, and it doesn't pretend to predict the real design, but just to show an F1 car in line with the 2014 regulations.

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/33700/ ... a-del-2014

[Racer X]

Has anyone taught about the wind the aero effect one could have on the car behind...

I mean it will have the same effect for everyone but take for example your design makes a stable current behind you will it make you easy to overtake... Or backwards will some cars be hard to keep up with due to the ero effects behind the cars... With these new exhaust will the aero be affected significabtly or is the exhaust effect behind you so minimal it doesn't event matter and I'm just wondering about something un important ..

[zioture]

what do you thinking of this idea?
In 2014 turbo engine will not need as much air in 2013 with v8 engines





http://www.newsf1.it/
https://twitter.com/Graftechweb

[motobaleno]

I'm not sure he's even trying to predict the actual Ferrari car - rather just using it as an example of how the regulations enforce various changes to the general layout.

the only substantial news that I read in that article is that ferrari would be going air-water intercooling

[Crucial_Xtreme]

the only substantial news that I read in that article is that ferrari would be going air-water intercooling

I hope Ferrari don't regret air-water. Others are using air-air because obviously water is heavy. Only time will tell and there's rumors Ferrari are doing something trick with their intercooling but obviously we won't know for a few months.

[FrukostScones]

The visual impact will change the front wing closer (it will grow from 1800 mm to 1650 mm in width) and the side walls are very different in design because they're going to direct the air inside of the wheels.

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl ... 14&act=url

ok, the omnicorse articele also says inwash front wing endplates... wow if that is correct!

[heimana]

what do you thinking of this idea?
In 2014 turbo engine will not need as much air in 2013 with v8 engines
http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... i_2014.jpg

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... 2014_2.jpg


http://www.newsf1.it/
https://twitter.com/Graftechweb

what? V6 will need much more air in 2014, that's why sidepods will be bigger than before

[Coefficient]

what do you thinking of this idea?
In 2014 turbo engine will not need as much air in 2013 with v8 engines
http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... i_2014.jpg

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... 2014_2.jpg


http://www.newsf1.it/
https://twitter.com/Graftechweb

what? V6 will need much more air in 2014, that's why sidepods will be bigger than before

I think vioture is referring to aspiration rather than cooling.