2014 Design

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franvan wrote:Gee, an Audi F1 car. Looks like they need some help with the front wing design though, looks pretty crude. At least they didn't cut the tail off the bull like the first photo shows.
I thought the shark fins were illegal now? Has this changed for 2014? Having a hard time keeping track of all the new aero rules.

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l4mbch0ps wrote:
I thought the shark fins were illegal now? Has this changed for 2014? Having a hard time keeping track of all the new aero rules.
That Design is from 2011.
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L0tus engineers predicting the E22 to have the same level as down-force as E21, is it possible?

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/33752/ ... della-e-22

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WilliamsF1 wrote:L0tus engineers predicting the E22 to have the same level as down-force as E21, is it possible?

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/33752/ ... della-e-22
I cant see that happening unless some sort of loophole is found.

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Holm86 wrote:
WilliamsF1 wrote:L0tus engineers predicting the E22 to have the same level as down-force as E21, is it possible?

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/33752/ ... della-e-22
I cant see that happening unless some sort of loophole is found.
"gurney on gurney beamwing" :lol: Anyway if that happens i will eat my "baclava" LOL :D
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Blackout wrote:MCDesigns
Those designs aren't legal though.. They fall foul of rule 3.7.8 - they don't have a single section.


... Perhaps save for the last one.

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The Ferrari one may be legal if the bow nose forms a single section with the upper nose. Two nose supports are allowed to support the front wing as far as I'm aware. Is there a rule dictating the mounting points of the wing supports? If not could this be a legitimate get around? (as already suggested by Gary Anderson).

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joetoml1n wrote:
Blackout wrote:MCDesigns
Those designs aren't legal though.. They fall foul of rule 3.7.8 - they don't have a single section.


... Perhaps save for the last one.

It is legal as the splitter connects the top and bottom to form one section

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Ferrari: it doesn't comply with article 3.7.9 (and 3.7.8 if the bulbous bow tapers upwards and backward)
McLaren: it is legal (although I'm not totally sure it complies with article 3.7.8 )
Caterham: it doesn't comply with articles 3.7.2 and 3.7.9 (and 3.7.8 if the bulbous bow tapers upwards and backward)
unbranded car: it doesn't comply with article 3.7.8

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WilliamsF1 wrote:
joetoml1n wrote:
Blackout wrote:MCDesigns
Those designs aren't legal though.. They fall foul of rule 3.7.8 - they don't have a single section.


... Perhaps save for the last one.

It is legal as the splitter connects the top and bottom to form one section
No, it doesn't.. At the red line, there are two sections, please excuse the crude drawings.
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it does, coz the extra parts on the nose are vanity panel.

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This is the basic part
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On top of the above there is vanity panel which is kind of this
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so it might be legal

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Is there a rule saying that vanity panel is exempt of rule 3.7.8 ( and the first part of 3.7.9 )? To me, rule 3.7.8 and 3.7.9 apply to all part of the nose, vanity panel included. The vanity panel is used if you have to put bodywork on top of the nose crash structure and the survival cell but in my opinion it has to comply with the rules 3.7.8 and 3.7.9.

About the 3 sketches ( nicely done by the way ), actually the 2014 F1_design one may be illegal because of the pillars. As the cross section define in the rule 15.4.3 has to be higher than 135mm and the rule 3.7.8 includes bodywork above 125mm, the way the pillars are shaped brake that rule.

About the Caterham, except the height of the nose tip which is for me too high and the single pillar ( ? ), imo the nose seems legal as it is like the McLaren snowplough.

The Ferrari one is a bit of unknown for me as I don't know how the bodywork is between the pillars.

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Would it still be possible within the 2014 regulations to create a rear wing with a sort of spoon design within the central 150mm area?? Having a 150mm section in the middle of the rear wing that is not as shallow as the rest of the wing??