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And the relevance of going to Jerez baffles me once again.
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SectorOne wrote:And the relevance of going to Jerez baffles me once again.
Why?? This is a good place to learn about the new engines. Try different engine and ERS maps etc. And you can still get as much aero data as you would at a straight line test. Perhaps they wont get that much cleverer on the tires and set up etc. but the test is still valuable IMO.

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SectorOne wrote:And the relevance of going to Jerez baffles me once again.
To get some mileage on the engines in vaguely representative conditions.

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SectorOne wrote:And the relevance of going to Jerez baffles me once again.
Jonnycraig wrote:
SectorOne wrote:And the relevance of going to Jerez baffles me once again.
............. in vaguely representative conditions.
yes, that's why i think lotus won't be too bad off by not participating in the test.
yes, some live data on the engines will be grand. but then again, the test facilities test the hell out of the engines,
and i'm sure the drivertrains and electric parts will undergo similar experiences.
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SectorOne wrote:And the relevance of going to Jerez baffles me once again.
I guess some track time is better than no track time. However, I'm also baffled why they didn't switch to warmer tracks once they were built? After all modern communications mean distance is less of a problem.

Perhaps they're concerned about not being able to fly parts out from the UK or Italy overnight? If so, they could test in Bahrain or Abu Dhabi and have a rest day in the middle to allow time for parts to be delivered.

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What about this?
As a result, changes to F1's Sporting Regulations mean one of this year's pre-season test days will be devoted to wet-weather tyre testing
I dont understand... does Jerez or Bahrain have a sprinkler system ?

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I suppose the benefit of Jerez for the first test is its close proximity so parts can be driven out in an emergency if needs be.

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Holm86 wrote:
Why?? This is a good place to learn about the new engines. Try different engine and ERS maps etc. And you can still get as much aero data as you would at a straight line test. Perhaps they wont get that much cleverer on the tires and set up etc. but the test is still valuable IMO.
You can learn about the engines and maps in any of the other thousand tracks around the world though.
By going to the middle east you not only test tires but cooling.

I think the reason for Jerez is that it´s dirt cheap compared to other places and with the economy the way it is, it´s probably the teams with the light wallets that ultimately decides to go there.

The tarmac has always been irrelevant to the F1 calendar in recent times but now, Pirelli won´t even bring the tire they will run for the season, instead you get "special" tires for "special" needs"

I´d go for a full month in the Middle East instead.

Dubai Autodrome - several layouts
Abu Dhabi - several layouts, day/night test.
Bahrain - several layouts, will have lights for night running.

There´s just so much more scope to test there instead. Then if you need one with chilly climates you already have Spain.
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Blackout wrote:What about this?
As a result, changes to F1's Sporting Regulations mean one of this year's pre-season test days will be devoted to wet-weather tyre testing
I dont understand... does Jerez or Bahrain have a sprinkler system ?
Abu Dhabi has talked about it but i think right now only Paul Ricard has it.
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they used a sprinkler truck in 2011

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Blackout wrote:What about this?
As a result, changes to F1's Sporting Regulations mean one of this year's pre-season test days will be devoted to wet-weather tyre testing
I dont understand... does Jerez or Bahrain have a sprinkler system ?
where has that come from? I'm not sure the teams would agree to that because they will lose a full day for themselves?
Holm86 wrote:Sky Sports Jerez test covering : http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22058 ... erez-plans
disappointing there not live. for at least the first day. There will be some much to talk about...

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astracrazy wrote:
Blackout wrote:What about this?
As a result, changes to F1's Sporting Regulations mean one of this year's pre-season test days will be devoted to wet-weather tyre testing
I dont understand... does Jerez or Bahrain have a sprinkler system ?
where has that come from? I'm not sure the teams would agree to that because they will lose a full day for themselves?
Holm86 wrote:Sky Sports Jerez test covering : http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22058 ... erez-plans
disappointing there not live. for at least the first day. There will be some much to talk about...
I heard that ted kravitz confirmed the Bahrain 2nd and 3rd test will be live broadcast-ed on Sky.
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astracrazy wrote:
Blackout wrote:What about this?
As a result, changes to F1's Sporting Regulations mean one of this year's pre-season test days will be devoted to wet-weather tyre testing
I dont understand... does Jerez or Bahrain have a sprinkler system ?
where has that come from? I'm not sure the teams would agree to that because they will lose a full day for themselves?
Autosport http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 1--f1.html + AMuS
The new rules will mean one of the 12 days of official pre-season testing will have to be dedicated exclusively to wet tyre testing.

Teams must also dedicate one of their eight days of in-season testing exclusively to tyre testing with Pirelli.
"This means that during each of the eight days of in-season testing, at least one team - and up to a maximum of two - will be concentrating on tyre testing along with Pirelli's engineers," the Pirelli statement said.
I'm also curious how that will work.

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Temperatures are relatively soft now at Bahrain, 17-20°C, with a humidity of 88%. The track could easily stay wet provided they continually wet the racing line. You can't do that with a sprinkler truck; you spray it wet, then the truck has to go off the track for the f1 cars to run. 11 cars will cut a dry racing line within 2 laps.

They'll have to install temporary sprinkler systems, or hope for a rainy day at either Jerez or Bahrain.
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turbof1 wrote:Temperatures are relatively soft now at Bahrain, 17-20°C, with a humidity of 88%. The track could easily stay wet provided they continually wet the racing line. You can't do that with a sprinkler truck; you spray it wet, then the truck has to go off the track for the f1 cars to run. 11 cars will cut a dry racing line within 2 laps.

They'll have to install temporary sprinkler systems, or hope for a rainy day at either Jerez or Bahrain.
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