2014 Design

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Why the 15mm exclussion zome around the exhaust is never going to be enough:

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And that's just the super hot (~1000°C) blue plasma we see there. I wonder how far out of the exhaust cilynder the flow is accelerated.
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Why are the 2014 nose tips forward of the front wing?

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Is there provision in the rules for teams to experiment with water injection for
cooling as well as fuel consumption this year?

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@williamsf1, What that does is give more room under the nose as it arches towards the front of the tub.
Remember the rules use 50mm behind the furthest point as the main reference for the nose tip. The further away that pont is from the tub, the more space under the tub you will have for air flow, seeing as though at 50mm behind the furthest point the crash structure must have it's centre of area at 185mm. So anywhere behind that point would naturally be higher as the nose joins the tub.
Place the nose too close to the tub, and the transition up towards the tub will be too aggressive, and the airflow wont be as stable; and in fact there would be too much expansion thus pressure increase.
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exchaser wrote:Is there provision in the rules for teams to experiment with water injection for
cooling as well as fuel consumption this year?
No water injection allowed - in the engine.

Or are you talking about spraying water on the radiators and intercoolers to gain additional cooling?

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ringo wrote:@williamsf1, What that does is give more room under the nose as it arches towards the front of the tub.
Remember the rules use 50mm behind the furthest point as the main reference for the nose tip. The further away that pont is from the tub, the more space under the tub you will have for air flow, seeing as though at 50mm behind the furthest point the crash structure must have it's centre of area at 185mm. So anywhere behind that point would naturally be higher as the nose joins the tub.
Place the nose too close to the tub, and the transition up towards the tub will be too aggressive, and the airflow wont be as stable; and in fact there would be too much expansion thus pressure increase.
Actually i wanted to know what is the maximum distance the front wing can be from the wheel center line.

I assumed increasing the front overhang of wing further from the front wheels will add more load on the front wheels

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WilliamsF1 wrote: Actually i wanted to know what is the maximum distance the front wing can be from the wheel center line.
I assumed increasing the front overhang of wing further from the front wheels will add more load on the front wheels
Actually with the rules being what they are and the center of DF woes the teams are facing I would assume they would rather be interested in the minimum distance from the front wheel center line. you would want to have it as much to the rear as possible.
And in getting the D*ck as far away from the front tyres as possible to have as much free cross section as possible at the narrowest point.
Result: D*ck hanging over the Front Wing. :lol:

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WilliamsF1 wrote: Actually i wanted to know what is the maximum distance the front wing can be from the wheel center line.

I assumed increasing the front overhang of wing further from the front wheels will add more load on the front wheels
the forward-most point of the front wing can be 1000 mm in front of the FWCL
and the forward-most point of the nose 1200 mm in front of the FWCL

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I made a car in 3d ... two vertical nozzle. The bottom is a wing. It is very ugly
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F1 chassis homologation?
Do the technical regulations include anything about 2014 cars being homologated, I had a look on FIA website and can't find anything. Apart from once the crash test is passed that part is homologated. Therefore with the different front nose designs seen so far will the teams be able to change the design. For example if the RB10 turns up with something that's a second faster can the rest copy it? I know that changing the front end changes the aero all the way to the back and you may have to change the whole philosophy of the car. It seems teams regularly turn up with new front wings and I assume these are attached to the front crash structure which has passed the crash test.
I remember something about chassis homologation back in 2012 when the RRA was being enforced but what about 2014?

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The modeling this simple (Wireframe + Shaded). I will make more details.
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Model: IDFX-2014-1a
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Model: IDFX-2014-2a
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Model: IDFX-2014-3a
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Model: IDFX-2014-3b
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Model: IDFX-2014-4a
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