Ferrari F14T

[trinidefender]

One advantage Ferrari nose may give is that it should work better in yaw. McLaren and Lotus nose will have dramatically different flow in yaw condition.

That is actually quite a valid point. Air flowing around the finger, exaggerated during yaw conditions creates some turbulence which may reduce downforce in the corners where you need it most.

[beelsebob]

Weren't we expecting the smaller side pod inlets? I thought it was reported earlier that Ferrari had opted for a water/air intercooler.

I don't know why everyone thinks this is a benefit, you still have to reject the heat to the air somewhere along the line.

But you can do so by using a larger radiator with less airflow. The benefit of water cooling is it's ability to spread the heat out through a very large heat sink (and not, as you rightly say, to make the heat magically disappear).

[Pup]

I don't know if there's an overall advantage to the water-air intercooler or not. We'll see, as they say. But placing the relatively smaller heat exchanger in the sidepod does give more flexibility in packaging, hence why I said that I thought the smaller inlets were expected.

[trinidefender]

It is a little insulting to the Ferrari engineers to say "oh they are idiots why is the nose like that, there won't be enough airflow coming underneath." However I think many of you are missing a vital piece of their nose design philosophy. If you look at the image there is a slight give-away. As you move back from the front of the FW supports along their profile you will notice that they curve in quite a lot. This basically creates a venturi. This venturi forces the air to speed up as it leaves the FW supports. This has the effect of pulling air from the side of the nose (the slot between the front wing supports and the side of the front wing) to under the nose because of the fast moving air caused by the venturi. This means that even though a large mass of air does not flow between the FW supports, they help to pull air in under the nose and send it down around the side of the side-pods along the floor.

2ndly by the airflowing moving inwards from around the nose to under it, it pulls air from in front the front tyre helping to control the effect the tyre has on the airflow.

3rd without the finger, there is much less to cause turbulence on the airflow going under and around the nose,

I am not saying this is the best solution for their car, I am not saying that it is the worst. I am saying that it is the one they went with and I am sure they have a good reason for doing so.

[Draco]

The F14-T has been defined by many in Italy a "conservative" car, isn't it the opposite?
Until now it's the only team that placed a bet on the engine cooling and on the behavior of the nose.

[Agerasia]

I suspect they are turning a neutral device into an aerodynamic device. If the air is in any way slower through that opening it will create downforce.
You have to weigh that up with air going to the underside of the chassis.
To get that right would be a task, and you create a Goldilocks zone. It's either good or bad.

[beelsebob]

I don't know if there's an overall advantage to the water-air intercooler or not. We'll see, as they say. But placing the relatively smaller heat exchanger in the sidepod does give more flexibility in packaging, hence why I said that I thought the smaller inlets were expected.

But water cooling doesn't get you a smaller heat exchanger. As trinidefender pointed out, that heat still has to be dumped into the air somehow. What water cooling does is allows you to dump more heat into less air by having a bigger heat exchanger.

[Mr.G]

Just repost from the gallery, somebody did a better visualization of what it was saying.

The nose doesn't look like it will obstruct the air flow. For me best design till now.

[Manoah2u]

=D> =D> =D>

that car is AWSOME!!!

it sure isnt pretty, but i never expected that MCD orange Mclaren to become reality!
I think the orange one actually looks prettier, as far as that's possibile,
but this is simply too cool! it's crazy and it looks crazy - just like the mclaren looks crazy
i really am enjoying these noses a lot more then i imagined.

really wondering how they'll perform! and need some real-life pictures, not studio cgi or whatever
want track photos and lots of sound

[mclaren_mircea]

http://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2014/01 ... i-f14.html

Good analysis of the Ferrari

[PABLOEING]

amazing work in this F14T........byrne rules ¡¡¡

http://f14t.ferrari.com/static/src/asse ... rbigv2.png

[CHT]

It does look like the nose could generate pretty decent down force. Perhaps the will allow them to reduce the drag on the front wing.

Its seems like the focus so far has been the nose. I am just wondering if we are going to see teams having very similar nose by the time the cars arrive at Melbourne.

[gandharva]

The McLaren isn't going to much more air under than the F14 T. And the Ferrari nose seems quite rounded to help facilitate air under front bulkhead along with help from camera pods. Armchair aero isn't going to tell us how good this nose is or isn't compared to other designs.

Sorry, but even without measuring its quite clear that the McLaren is able to ditch about 4 times more air under the nose compared to Ferrari. Imho this is an extremely conservative launch design and nothing more. The only advantage i currently see in such design is less air turbulence.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

The McLaren isn't going to much more air under than the F14 T. And the Ferrari nose seems quite rounded to help facilitate air under front bulkhead along with help from camera pods. Armchair aero isn't going to tell us how good this nose is or isn't compared to other designs.

Sorry, but even without measuring its quite clear that the McLaren is able to ditch about 4 times more air under the nose compared to Ferrari. Imho this is an extremely conservative launch design and nothing more. The only advantage i currently see in such design is less air turbulence.

Not for me, can you elaborate for me please ?

[BorisTheBlade]

We should not forget that they have Allison. He must have known about the tusk nose. So there are two alternatives. Either it was too late for a complete redesign of the aero concept or their solution is at least on par. But my armchair eye fails to see how.