Ferrari F14T

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andrea wrote:If Red Bull come out with a similar design of the one of Ferrari for the nose, I will start laughting and laughting waiting for new posts of the experts that in this forum get rid of Ferrari today..
The rumor is RBR has finger-type nose :)
Anyway, I don't think RBR has same solution, however, I would not be surprised that the nose is Byrne's idea. And I would not be surprised that such design might become the trend. Remember 2000 when almost all cars converged on a high nose. Then there was a change of regs regarding front wing and Byrne opted for low nose on F2001, while Newey went for medium-high nose on MP4-16. Low nose proved to be the way to go for the next few years.

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http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/34143/ ... in-bahrain

They might change the nose for Bahrain. Acording to Omnicorse, Ferrari is contemplating an extrem version of their nose or a Lotus style nose.

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You guys crack me up... :) You have absolutelly no idea why ferrari chose this type of nose, you have no aero data at all, and yet you manage to send the car to the grave because YOU think it's no good without even seeing it go... :) It's just insane to even read this! :D Please stop it with the "I don't like it, it's gonna suck because it's ugly and doesn't have a dick on the nose!" It does look different but who knows, it just might work! I hope they prove all you chair aero chiefs wrong... :)
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here's how the nose works ferrari

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http://www.newsf1.it/

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That makes sense taking in consideration the shape of the camera pods and the fact that the leading edges of the FW mounting pillars are pointing outwards, to "scoop" the air under the nose.
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zioture wrote:here's how the nose works ferrari

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... -f14-t.jpg
I hope there is more to it.
If that is all they wanted to achieve I would be not too optimistic...

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I find the nose quite similar
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Goran2812 wrote:You guys crack me up... :) You have absolutelly no idea why ferrari chose this type of nose, you have no aero data at all, and yet you manage to send the car to the grave because YOU think it's no good without even seeing it go... :) It's just insane to even read this! :D Please stop it with the "I don't like it, it's gonna suck because it's ugly and doesn't have a dick on the nose!" It does look different but who knows, it just might work! I hope they prove all you chair aero chiefs wrong... :)
members made CFD analysis of various nose types, this tye of nose didN't seem to be perfect, but Ferrari will have a reason (a good one?) to use it.
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I am sure that guys at Maranello know what is the best version to fit on the car. Maybe they will recover the lack of the air with inwash FW?

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henra wrote:
zioture wrote:here's how the nose works ferrari

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... -f14-t.jpg
I hope there is more to it.
If that is all they wanted to achieve I would be not too optimistic...
How so? I'm really failing to see what is missing or what is lacking.
F1NAC wrote:I am sure that guys at Maranello know what is the best version to fit on the car. Maybe they will recover the lack of the air with inwash FW?
Why would they do that? We have been here before many, many times. The inwash will gain nothing, will ruin the vortex that will turn tire wake away from the floor, will actually pull air to flow over the tire, which can only induce drag, create lift and send even more dirty air to the floor, and reduce wing area by a significant amount.

Sending more air somewhere will gain absolutely nothing if 3/4rd of it has somehow been influenced by the front tire. And neither does all the wheel wake that will flow under the floor edges ruining the whole sealing effect created here.
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FrukostScones wrote:
Goran2812 wrote:You guys crack me up... :) You have absolutelly no idea why ferrari chose this type of nose, you have no aero data at all, and yet you manage to send the car to the grave because YOU think it's no good without even seeing it go... :) It's just insane to even read this! :D Please stop it with the "I don't like it, it's gonna suck because it's ugly and doesn't have a dick on the nose!" It does look different but who knows, it just might work! I hope they prove all you chair aero chiefs wrong... :)
members made CFD analysis of various nose types, this tye of nose didN't seem to be perfect, but Ferrari will have a reason (a good one?) to use it.

Yeah, they did. But nobody (except Ferrari ofc) made CFD analysis of a whole car, together with tires, suspension, interior aerodynamics and with absolutely correct measures.

And I am 100% sure that guys at Maranello haven't just put that nose on and said: "that's fine, we'll go with it". I think there were months and months spent on fine-tuning nose shape, wing shape, pillars,...

Just because someone's CFD analysis of nosecone only without any other part of the car taken into consideration gave bad results doesn't make that design wrong.

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I think we will see a lot of different noses on all car during tests...

Anyway i find one positive aspect of F14T nose: it's center of mass. Those long noses we have seen on other cars move it forward

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But that's obvious. :|

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Avocado wrote:
But that's obvious. :|
Gotta do that complex CFD for the blog hits. Lets hope Ferrari don't see that image or it might put them over their allotted terraflops of CFD allowed.
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To me seems that all the car is designed on the F2012 and F138 concept i hope it will work finally in 2014 season ;)