Ferrari F14T

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sorry to go off topic a little, not sure if its been mentioned before, but has anyone noticed that the name of the car resembles FIAT quite well?

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FIAT

maybe FIAT gave 32% of the votes...

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No. You're the first one to see that. Good job.
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I have good feelings on the car. For me its not ugly if its fast... lets see on first race!!!!

The nose its not the most important thing as understand But its a good design...

The air inside the rectangular section of the nose goes througt an Area A1 to a small area A2 (Venturi effect) then the air speed increases and with bernoullli equation its meanas lower pression in the nose back (Downforce) and the air in both sides outside of the nose try to go to the zone with lower Pression... that is, under the car... I don't think the air flow will be smaller than Mac laren or Williams... I Think it will be faster, and with more down force, less preasure, and easily to drive under the car.

Its only my opinion of course... :)

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this
FrukostScones wrote:members made CFD analysis of various nose types, this tye of nose didN't seem to be perfect, but Ferrari will have a reason (a good one?) to use it.
and this
F1NAC wrote:I am sure that guys at Maranello know what is the best version to fit on the car. Maybe they will recover the lack of the air with inwash FW?
and this
Cuky wrote:Yeah, they did. But nobody (except Ferrari ofc) made CFD analysis of a whole car, together with tires, suspension, interior aerodynamics and with absolutely correct measures.

And I am 100% sure that guys at Maranello haven't just put that nose on and said: "that's fine, we'll go with it". I think there were months and months spent on fine-tuning nose shape, wing shape, pillars,...

Just because someone's CFD analysis of nosecone only without any other part of the car taken into consideration gave bad results doesn't make that design wrong.
some common sense... =D>
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SchumacherM wrote:No. You're the first one to see that. Good job.
thanks ! :)
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CFD of the nose of the car in isolation is completely pointless!

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Alonso Fan wrote:
SchumacherM wrote:No. You're the first one to see that. Good job.
thanks ! :)
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Goran2812 wrote:You guys crack me up... You have absolutelly no idea why ferrari chose this type of nose, you have no aero data at all, and yet you manage to send the car to the grave because YOU think it's no good without even seeing it go... It's just insane to even read this! Please stop it with the "I don't like it, it's gonna suck because it's ugly and doesn't have a dick on the nose!" It does look different but who knows, it just might work! I hope they prove all you chair aero chiefs wrong...
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Alonso Fan wrote:
SchumacherM wrote:No. You're the first one to see that. Good job.
thanks ! :)
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Guys, your are going quite off topic :?
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Alonso Fan wrote:
SchumacherM wrote:No. You're the first one to see that. Good job.
thanks ! :)
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You're the 376289th one to see that. Good job.

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Cuky wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:
Goran2812 wrote: Yeah, they did. But nobody (except Ferrari ofc) made CFD analysis of a whole car, together with tires, suspension, interior aerodynamics and with absolutely correct measures.

And I am 100% sure that guys at Maranello haven't just put that nose on and said: "that's fine, we'll go with it". I think there were months and months spent on fine-tuning nose shape, wing shape, pillars,...

Like I said before, I'm pretty sure that Ferrari aerodynamicist tried various solutions for nose/front end.
And "vacuum cleaner" came at top of them all.

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wesley123 wrote: How so? I'm really failing to see what is missing or what is lacking.
What is lacking?
Obviously energised flow moving into the void behind the nose.
The way it is shown in the pic would create low Speed/energy airflow in that section. And low Speed airflow = high static pressure (read: Lift). Which is what you definitely don't want in front of the T-Tray and underbody.

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Never trust a CFD of a front wing that produces no Y250 vortex. Or that has a color palette scaled (in velocity) from zero to whatever. Or that has wind at 36Km/h. Just sayin'.
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Did you see the gearbox between 0:35 and 0:39 in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkTX3uC3-E#t=42
Doesnt look like the 2013 Gbox
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