Ferrari F14T

[Crabbia]

There is a discussion on the Sauber C33 thread about the weather the opening on the top of the engine cover on either side of the shark fin is an inlet or an outlet.

My view is that it is an inlet.

1. it has its outlet just above the exhaust. this is to take advantage of the low pressure area caused by the exhaust to pull air through the inlet at the top of the engine cover, in the classic venturi effect.

2. This could also shape the exaust plume cone to move upwards slightly, lessening drag on the rear wing.



Also, i don't think trick aero parts are going to be the performance differentials this season, or the major point of interest for me personally. The engines; reliability; KE and HE deployment and recovery; break by wire all of this things are all avenues for worthwhile development now.

So i think there is no sense judging these cars on what we can see is futile. its what we cant see that will really count this season and how they fuse all their individual solutions to problems together.

in short i can wait to see this thing (and its contemporaries) naked. bring on testing and sneaky shots, burning body work and hoisted cars.

[Kiril Varbanov]

At this point take any prediction with a grain of salt. Let's not forget that the initial renderings, especially when it comes to Ferrari were not totally correct.

I'm unimpressed by the nose so far, as it's fair to assume that development will be carried on further. The nose and front wing are the shapes that would define the airflow to the rest of the car and I have no doubt that this solution is already thoroughly tested in the wind tunnel. I.e. it would be unwise to go to B and skipping A.

What bothers me the most are the cooling inlets, assuming those are the final versions. Again, the usual disclaimer is that what we see is a launch car and anything can happen (as long as it's crash tested...).
There is a common agreement that the cooling flow will be a main point this year, and Ferrari are presenting extremely-small looking cooling solutions - small-ish sidepods and triangular roll-hoop inlet. What bothers me here is the shape, which is somewhat more unfavorable than rounded / circle when it comes to drag and smooth flow. This is area unrestricted by CFD regulations, so I won't be surprised to see new iterations, still, the shape is really important. F138 also had such shape, but this one is lot more pronounced and sharp.



All this could mean a lot and nothing, at the same time. So, bring on Jerez.

[PABLOEING]

Ferrari not paint the rear of the car for to have 500 grs less of weight....
link in spanish:
http://blogs.20minutos.es/formula-1-alo ... eglamento/

[turbof1]

Seems reasonable. Everybody is on the limit, so saving 500gr just on paint looks like a good deal.

[stefan_]

500g just by not painting a part of the car is something. Good thinking.

[timbo]

Does 500g figure seem plausible? Considering they are aready using very few layers?

[SectorOne]

Half a kilo? Impressive.

[Mr.G]

http://f14t.ferrari.com/static/src/asse ... arview.jpg

There is a discussion on the Sauber C33 thread about the weather the opening on the top of the engine cover on either side of the shark fin is an inlet or an outlet.

My view is that it is an inlet.

1. it has its outlet just above the exhaust. this is to take advantage of the low pressure area caused by the exhaust to pull air through the inlet at the top of the engine cover, in the classic venturi effect.

2. This could also shape the exaust plume cone to move upwards slightly, lessening drag on the rear wing.



Also, i don't think trick aero parts are going to be the performance differentials this season, or the major point of interest for me personally. The engines; reliability; KE and HE deployment and recovery; break by wire all of this things are all avenues for worthwhile development now.

So i think there is no sense judging these cars on what we can see is futile. its what we cant see that will really count this season and how they fuse all their individual solutions to problems together.

in short i can wait to see this thing (and its contemporaries) naked. bring on testing and sneaky shots, burning body work and hoisted cars.

I did a picture for you. As you can see, there is some kind of bar for strengthen the RW pillars, or it's monkey seat. And this cause the opening around the exhaust looks like two small outlets, but they are illusions (we'll hopefully will have better pictures tomorrow).

And the outlets are outlets as you can see inside the engine cover from behind.

[F1NAC]

I don't know if someone checked but Wikipedia says that designer of F14 T is Rory Byrne

[Chuckjr]

What is it with Byrne and low noses...

[zioture]

http://f14t.ferrari.com/static/src/asse ... arview.jpg

There is a discussion on the Sauber C33 thread about the weather the opening on the top of the engine cover on either side of the shark fin is an inlet or an outlet.

My view is that it is an inlet.

1. it has its outlet just above the exhaust. this is to take advantage of the low pressure area caused by the exhaust to pull air through the inlet at the top of the engine cover, in the classic venturi effect.

2. This could also shape the exaust plume cone to move upwards slightly, lessening drag on the rear wing.


I have some better pictures, but not the place 'cause I do according to some users spam?
I have better pictures' cause I have access to the media Ferrari as a journalist....



Also, i don't think trick aero parts are going to be the performance differentials this season, or the major point of interest for me personally. The engines; reliability; KE and HE deployment and recovery; break by wire all of this things are all avenues for worthwhile development now.

So i think there is no sense judging these cars on what we can see is futile. its what we cant see that will really count this season and how they fuse all their individual solutions to problems together.

in short i can wait to see this thing (and its contemporaries) naked. bring on testing and sneaky shots, burning body work and hoisted cars.

http://papermodelers.sk/hostimages2014/ ... EoZZFv.png

I did a picture for you. As you can see, there is some kind of bar for strengthen the RW pillars, or it's monkey seat. And this cause the opening around the exhaust looks like two small outlets, but they are illusions (we'll hopefully will have better pictures tomorrow).

And the outlets are outlets as you can see inside the engine cover from behind.

I have some better pictures, but don't post it 'cause I do according to some users spam?
I have better pictures' cause I have access to the media Ferrari for only journalist

[Manoah2u]

dude, it's not what you post, it's that it's filled with links to your .it site

your additions are greatly enjoyed. it's the constant linking to your website which is starting to get a bit annoying.
nothing more nothing less.

[adrianjordan]

I don't know if someone checked but Wikipedia says that designer of F14 T is Rory Byrne

Since anyone can edit wikipedia I would take that with a whole packet of salt...

[Crabbia]

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I did a picture for you. As you can see, there is some kind of bar for strengthen the RW pillars, or it's monkey seat. And this cause the opening around the exhaust looks like two small outlets, but they are illusions (we'll hopefully will have better pictures tomorrow).

And the outlets are outlets as you can see inside the engine cover from behind.

Thank you, and i see what you're saying. This could well be the case, especially considering the inlet could by the opening behind the drivers helmet/headrest and just below the airbox inlet.


But looking at that view again, it looks like the top of those black curved sections on either side of the shark fin have been doctored, the two semicircular shapes are too uniform and grey, and have that classic PS fill dull smudge.

also if you look at this image,
http://f14t.ferrari.com/static/src/asse ... ront34.jpg

where the white line disecting the black and the red touches the top on the engine cover, it looks like there is a semicirular shape again. (you will have to zoom and enhance, sorry i can't do it for you.
It looks as if it has also been doctored or edited to me.

only reason im banging on about this as an inlet is:
Sauber have an inlet in that area and they have the same engine.
This is directly above the turbo, so could possibly be for turbo/intercooler cooling.


I know the pictures dont fully support it, it just seems logical to me.

I think this is an unfinished part of the car and we will only see the finished part come testing.

[acosmichippo]

I don't know if someone checked but Wikipedia says that designer of F14 T is Rory Byrne

Since anyone can edit wikipedia I would take that with a whole packet of salt...

There should be sources listed for claims like that, so I put a [citation needed] tag on it.