Ferrari F14T

[aral]

that item is only a mould. and a mould is stiffened by glassing foam strips onto it to provide stiffness. visually remove the two foam strips and look at the shape. it replicates the steep part of the body between the suspension bulkhead and the lower part of the nose, by the front wing pylons . remember, there are numerous pieces of cf produced to make up the body.

[fawe4]

It's also interesting to note this:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LL1iL89X9mU/U ... y+Seat.jpg
dunno if discovered by him but taken from SomersF1.
So the exausts will blow on Monkey seat?

Against regulations. Exhaust can't blow anything.

I hope you're being sarcastic

Read the rules. Or just look at Torro Rosso for example of what is allowed partaking monkey seat.

[Redragon]

that item is only a mould. and a mould is stiffened by glassing foam strips onto it to provide stiffness. visually remove the two foam strips and look at the shape. it replicates the steep part of the body between the suspension bulkhead and the lower part of the nose, by the front wing pylons . remember, there are numerous pieces of cf produced to make up the body.

Yep I was thinking the same, it looks like the negative, the positve part or final piece should be in the mould

[Disgrace]

So, page 22 and still nobody complaining about the pull rod front suspensions?
Jokes (?) a part, I'm impressed, this F14-T looks amazingly similar to the F138 in overall volumes but the nose, of course.

The difference between the front suspension treatment of the McLaren and Ferrari are quite a contrast. Surely there's more going on here than simply pull vs. push rod and low vs. high chassis?

[henra]

So, three possibilities:
1: it's the current nose cone but upside down and with a gap in the middle witch isn't visible from above, but from a cad drawing presented in one of the videos i wouldn't take this like a presumable one.
2: it's a nose e22-like, but from that picture it doesn't seems to be lopsided.
3: mystery that lies in some kind of R&D

4: Not a nose at all.

Rear Wing Support sounds indeed much more likely.
I had initially thought about the cover over the rear crash structure where the rear light is mounted.

[Manoah2u]

[fawe4]

So, page 22 and still nobody complaining about the pull rod front suspensions?
Jokes (?) a part, I'm impressed, this F14-T looks amazingly similar to the F138 in overall volumes but the nose, of course.

The difference between the front suspension treatment of the McLaren and Ferrari are quite a contrast. Surely there's more going on here than simply pull vs. push rod and low vs. high chassis?

One thing that's bothering me the most is that part as well. Not the suspension placement itself, but wishbones. Lower noses in Mclarens and Torro Rosos case, allowed lower placement of wishbones, they are now nearly horizontal. In Ferraris case I really expected to be lower as well, one advantage of pullrod is that it allows lower suspension placement, but in the end they decided for pretty much the same placement as in previous year.

I really don't know why would they do that. They no longer have that big gaping hole that they used to suck the air under the nose, jet both suspension and the rider position appears to be the same as if they still had it.

[motobaleno]

One thing that's bothering me the most is that part as well. Not the suspension placement itself, but wishbones. Lower noses in Mclarens and Torro Rosos case, allowed lower placement of wishbones, they are now nearly horizontal. In Ferraris case I really expected to be lower as well, one advantage of pullrod is that it allows lower suspension placement, but in the end they decided for pretty much the same placement as in previous year.

I really don't know why would they do that. They no longer have that big gaping hole that they used to suck the air under the nose, jet both suspension and the rider position appears to be the same as if they still had it.

really worrying indeed...either they have managed with that sucker nose (and around it) to make the air to flow massively under the chassis like last year or they have retained a too conservative design that could be failing this year

[mkable1370]

One thing that's bothering me the most is that part as well. Not the suspension placement itself, but wishbones. Lower noses in Mclarens and Torro Rosos case, allowed lower placement of wishbones, they are now nearly horizontal. In Ferraris case I really expected to be lower as well, one advantage of pullrod is that it allows lower suspension placement, but in the end they decided for pretty much the same placement as in previous year.

I really don't know why would they do that. They no longer have that big gaping hole that they used to suck the air under the nose, jet both suspension and the rider position appears to be the same as if they still had it.

yeah, really worrying...either they have managed with that sucker nose (and around it) to make the air to flow massively under the chassis like last year or they have retained a too conservative design that could be failing this year

I agree this does raise questions. But, possibly in their analysis the Ferrari engineers expect that front suspension set-up to do what they want it to do as it is without needing to make wholesale changes to it. It's been said repeatedly that the key to this season will be reliability. Perhaps, in their calculus, using the well understood suspension with 2 years of development under its belt eliminates a critical variable from the equation when trying to set-up and optimize the car with such a radically new front-end.

[motobaleno]

I agree this does raise questions. But, possibly in their analysis the Ferrari engineers expect that front suspension set-up to do what they want it to do as it is without needing to make wholesale changes to it. It's been said repeatedly that the key to this season will be reliability. Perhaps, in their calculus, using the well understood suspension with 2 years of development under its belt eliminates a critical variable from the equation when trying to set-up and optimize the car with such a radically new front-end.

yep this is the most probable explanation...the problem is that it does not seem such a winning one to me...
actually what I hope is that they really succeeded in constrainig the flow under the chassis even with the low nose...if this is the case than that suspension layout could be really winning...even more if the flow goes around the nose...then the free space under the wishbones will be even more valuable than last year

[f1fan2009]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkt5k-x4GT0

[Mr.G]

Nobody shooting out pictures of the F14T?

[BlackSwan]

Nobody shooting out pictures of the F14T?

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... =45#navbar

[charlex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOGQ7zZIrvQ
F14-T sound....awesome!

[Hail22]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOGQ7zZIrvQ
F14-T sound....awesome!

Between :02-:03 it sounded like a blow off valve, unless I'm mistaken?