Mercedes AMG F1 W05

[Owen.C93]

So is there anything stopping them making the nose even higher later on?

[turbof1]

So is there anything stopping them making the nose even higher later on?

Other then the crash tests: no! Now this is a very difficult concept to get through the crash tests, but mercedes has time to figure it out.

[CBeck113]

I have the feeling that the entire nose is covered with the vanity panel:


Due to the damage to the nose itself its difficult to say on which side the offset would have been, but from the picture of the wing laying on the circuit it seems to be the left side with the prothesis and the right side the tusk. But that's just taking the little info we have and speculating.

[Owen.C93]

Here we can see where it failed.

[ben_watkins]

Good thing he was unharmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHRj3OKdMw

From the video at point 0:16 - 0:18 it looks like the vanity panel has come off in the impact. So it must stretch from the infront of the front wheels backwards towards the driver, ending near the bottom of his number 44. A small step is evident and the silver skin gone, showing naked carbon nose section. Interesting

[C Plinius Secundus]

Good thing he was unharmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHRj3OKdMw

Yes, fortunately, he didn't get hurt.

Scary thing to loose the front wing...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he just had an accident at that very same corner, during his first day of testing in Jerez last year, due to a massive brake failure?

[turbof1]

I have the feeling that the entire nose is covered with the vanity panel:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... ow_item=99

Due to the damage to the nose itself its difficult to say on which side the offset would have been, but from the picture of the wing laying on the circuit it seems to be the left side with the prothesis and the right side the tusk. But that's just taking the little info we have and speculating.

There are so many variations in how you can implement it. It's difficult to figure that out; most likely they'll want to use as much as crash structure as possible in order to meet the crash tests, limiting the vanity to the absolute necessary concerning aerodynamic and regulatory needs. But the most important part is that they use it

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I have the feeling that the entire nose is covered with the vanity panel:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... ow_item=99

Due to the damage to the nose itself its difficult to say on which side the offset would have been, but from the picture of the wing laying on the circuit it seems to be the left side with the prothesis and the right side the tusk. But that's just taking the little info we have and speculating.

I got the same feeling on the vanity panel covering the whole nose (especially by the way it shed its skin in the imact.), but for legality's sake, I think they have to at least be using the vanity panel for the rounded "upper nose"" as it were, to meet the single section rule.

Original image is TuboF1's, but I've tinkered with it to illustrate what I mean about the "upper nose":

[Owen.C93]

[turbof1]

I have the feeling that the entire nose is covered with the vanity panel:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... ow_item=99

Due to the damage to the nose itself its difficult to say on which side the offset would have been, but from the picture of the wing laying on the circuit it seems to be the left side with the prothesis and the right side the tusk. But that's just taking the little info we have and speculating.

I got the same feeling on the vanity panel covering the whole nose (especially by the way it shed its skin in the imact.), but for legality's sake, I think they have to at least be using the vanity panel for the rounded "upper nose"" as it were, to meet the single section rule.

Original image is TuboF1's, but I've tinkered with it to illustrate what I mean about the "upper nose":
http://i.imgur.com/esTfZZ1.jpg

Yes I was having the same feeling about it, but at that point I already scanned the image in and uploaded it. I however think they need to do this to meet the requirements to be allowed to use the vanity panel. I believe they still are within the single section rule even if the nosetip is crash structure.

[Forza]

Jerez T01- Day 1

[turbof1]

Good thing he was unharmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHRj3OKdMw

Based on this video I changed my drawing a bit:


I think they are only allowed to use 1 vanity panel and have a step where the front bulkhead meets the crash structure. In order to both cover the step and to elongate the pylon, they had to extende the vanity panel all the way from the step to the pylon.

[turbof1]

Matt somers believes the pylons gave way (http://somersf1.blogspot.be/2014/01/mer ... reaks.html), so that's good atleast: it means they need to thicken the pylons. While this will add some weight, probably not too much, it's way better then having to redesign the nose and having to crash test it again. The pylons are less then 10mm wide in Mercedes' case, while they can be as much as 25mm.

[Owen.C93]

Might as well post this now for reference later in the season.

[Helios]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he just had an accident at that very same corner, during his first day of testing in Jerez last year, due to a massive brake failure?

No. The brake failure from last year happened at Turn 6, while todays crash happened at T1.