Shi*t, maybe MAL should have stayed with Willimas ...
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If cooling is already not good enough with a tuned down engine in a very cold climate I'm getting a little afraid of what will happen when they will actually race.ChrisF1 wrote:(cooling isn't good enough)
it was just an example I have no idea what is wrong. My point one no matter how many quality steps you have it wont fix something missed in the designdans79 wrote:what are they saying was wrong with the heat treatment specifically? Testing that a part has reached the proper hardness for example is a trivial task. I know people who have the tool needed for it in their home workshops.flynfrog wrote:10 levels of QA wont fix an incorrect heat treat on a drawing or a missed tolerancedans79 wrote:bad cranks? How do you mess up an entire batch of crank shafts? for what these engines cost they should have 10 levels of quality control to make sure that doesn't happen.
It happens this is the first time these engines have been run outside of the dyno the sky probably inst falling yet.
"We know on our side we have one problem that we have clearly identified and we want to fix it," explained Taffin. "We could not fix it for this morning, so we decided to do as much as we could on our side to make sure that, for tomorrow, and especially for Red Bull and Toro Rosso, that we are sure we can take to the track at 9 a.m. We are confident that tomorrow morning we will have all three cars on track."
Taffin declined to elaborate on the specifics of the problem with the energy stores, but suggested it was the way that the batteries were interacting with the rest of the power unit that was causing troubles.
"You have to bear in mind that a power unit is made up of a lot of sub components, and it is not a matter of one of them not working," he said. "It is clearly a problem of integration of all these systems.
"In particular, for this problem, we had to fix the problem through the energy store, but I am not going to go into detail due to the nature of the architecture of our system. We have clearly identified something that we would have to change.
"We have the parts, we have the people here, we have the means to do this, and we were prepared to do this. We did not want to do this when we came here, but that is what has happened and we are doing it."
Taffin added that the smoking issues spotted at Red Bull did not relate to the energy store problems.
Ok, but one would hope fundamental design flaws would have been worked out on the dyno.flynfrog wrote: it was just an example I have no idea what is wrong. My point one no matter how many quality steps you have it wont fix something missed in the design
anything is possible when it comes to the French FIA & and a French company.mkable1370 wrote:OK, so maybe this is an extremely far-fetched idea, based on the latest info I''ve read today by Renault as to what's been plaguing the Renault-powered teams thus far at Jerez. What if Renault knowingly supplied defective battery/electronics to their teams with the knowledge that it would more-or-less prevent their cars from running successfully at Jerez, and with the end-goal of using this to pressure the FIA into engine/development concessions or a separate free test session of some sort only for the Renault powered cars?
Ok, so its a crazy conspiracy theory. I know. I'll be quiet now.
Skippon wrote:It was KERS that was the weak part of Red Bulls package 2011 to 2013 so I'm not surprised the larger ERS package is any different. In contrast Merc made theirs in house has been considered to be the most reliable!!