Red Bull RB10 Renault

[H2H]

Yeah, the undercut is deep. This is the reason why was surprised to hear comments that coke bottle was not quite as spectacular. As I wrote before the design philosphy is obvious and RBR has gone a long way in packaging all the components away from the area right ahead of the diffusor. The RB9 had already the cooling outlets in a similar position, now they are bigger and wider which gives a false impression on the shape of the coke bottle if you look at it from above.

Thanks for posting all those high-def pics =D>

[H2H]

It is interesting to compare the suspension geometry and the cooling outlets to the ones of the RB9





The RB10 needs more cooling and the outlets are indeed much wider and have been pushed as much as possible it seems, look at the upstream upper mounting point.

I would love to see a closer look at the starter hole and it's design. They certainly seem to still blow it.

[gandharva]

The RB10 needs more cooling and the outlets are indeed much wider

Imho this is a false assumption. RB9 used to blow its beamwing by the big centralized outlet. Now this is no longer possible. So Newey now blows off all the heat from engine/cooling where it is most useful after regulation change.

And just look at RB9s RENAULT letters. There is no bulk visible at RB10 in this area. This tells me that the engine is sitting very deep down in the new car.

[H2H]

From all we have heard the whole powerpack needs as a whole considerably more cooling as the old package. There should be no doubt that this will result in larger cooling outlets. The lateral ones within the suspension geometry are higher and far wider as the comparision shows.



I'm pretty sure that as in the last seasons those laterals will be more fixed compared to central one which was often changed to suit the cooling needs of the specific races. That one is still in less aero-critical area.

[gandharva]

From all we have heard the whole powerpack needs as a whole considerably more cooling as the old package. There should be no doubt that this will result in larger cooling outlets.

No. More cooling area is needed, but all the energy recovery systems are eating a huge part of it. So more cooling area does not mean more cooling outlets!

[H2H]

From all we have heard the whole powerpack needs as a whole considerably more cooling as the old package. There should be no doubt that this will result in larger cooling outlets.

No. More cooling area is needed, but all the energy recovery systems are eating a huge part of it. So more cooling area does not mean more cooling outlets!

Where did I write about more cooling outlets? I pointed out that the lateral outlets, which already existed on the RB9 in Jerez, are now in the RB10-version far wider and thus have a much bigger cooling area. They will do most of that job.

We will have to see how they will developed the area around the exhaust.

[johnflan]

I'm trying to gain a better understanding of the packaging of the mid section - (batteries are under the fuel cell?) are these proportions close to reality?

Im hoping this is the correct forum for this

[beelsebob]

http://i.imgur.com/9sWma2U.jpg

I'm trying to gain a better understanding of the packaging of the mid section - (batteries are under the fuel cell?) are these proportions close to reality?

Im hoping this is the correct forum for this

Batteries are typically placed in the dip with the plank under it, as they're extremely dense.

[radosav]

Renault hints at cooling problems for Red Bull. http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08457

[Ozan]

I think this year A.newey won't be able to pack the car tightly as he did in last year. the problems started to pop out

[djos]

http://i.imgur.com/9sWma2U.jpg

I'm trying to gain a better understanding of the packaging of the mid section - (batteries are under the fuel cell?) are these proportions close to reality?

Im hoping this is the correct forum for this

Batteries are typically placed in the dip with the plank under it, as they're extremely dense.

iirc correctly the Batteries are mandated to be under the fuel cell by the FiA for this year.

[ringo]

The car has the signature "radiused" sidepods, as predicted. They somehow managed to bring back the pre coanda shape; which was expected. The shape is even more distinctive on this years car. I fear there will be aerodynamic domination, but it's half the story if the power unit is not versatile.

[beelsebob]

The car has the signature "radiused" sidepods, as predicted. They somehow managed to bring back the pre coanda shape; which was expected. The shape is even more distinctive on this years car. I fear there will be aerodynamic domination, but it's half the story if the power unit is not versatile.

Yeh, there's lots of ellipses here. Clearly they're going to destroy the field.

[ringo]

You're mixing the theories. But anyhow, i've not been proven otherwise from 2009. Let's see how they run this year.
They are sticking with the same curvature, even moreso this year with less aero assistance from elements such as beamwings and blown diffusers.

[flynfrog]

You're mixing the theories. But anyhow, i've not been proven otherwise from 2009. Let's see how they run this year.
They are sticking with the same curvature, even moreso this year with less aero assistance from elements such as beamwings and blown diffusers.

I think its to color of the blue paint. No other car has used it. No other car has been some dominate in the last 5 years. I also have not been proven otherwise. That makes my theory fact!