Mercedes AMG F1 W05

[markn93]

Two things.

1. They passed the crash test. So now they come along and say they didn't pass it well enough? Odd.

2. Couldn't they just build the 'soft bits' a little stronger and not have to change design?

[andrewf1]

According to AMuS, it's another classic case of 'the things are legal, but they don't follow the spirit of the regulations' - everyone here who's tired of hearing this should raise their hand.

Apparently the first 15 cm of some of the noses are way too soft and play no significant role in an impact because they absorb no energy, therefore undermining the original idea of improving the safety of the cars via lower noses.

[Trocola]

Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 2m
FIA not happy with safety of nose designs. 2 teams might be considered too dangerours: AMuS exclusive (in German):

As I understand in the article at AMuS that it's Mercedes and Red Bull?
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 17161.html

This is actually really bad if it means Mercedes, but why would they consider it dangerous? I think it is an ideal design.

If I had to bet, I would think Caterham and Lotus are the ones in danger, even if Lotus is only shown through a studio pic.

For what i have read, Mercedes nose is the same as Lotus, but i has a vanity panel

[the user]

On a different note, had Mercedes asked me to chime in on the livery, here's what the W05 could have ended up with:

http://imageshack.com/a/img163/2889/5s5p.jpg

Meh... I think it's for the better that you didn't get to design it For me personally it lacks sophistication and there's too much black. Sure, the original livery isn't exactly for my taste as well - why did they put black on it at all? It's a silver arrow. But the fading colors (black on the engine cover, ugly Petronas-green) help to add some elegance.

The black ties in nicely with Blackberry's corporate colour and AMG are infamous for the ultra powerful "Black" editions of Mercedes Road Cars. It's called Synergy I believe. I think it looks cool and it just shows even the richest teams are susceptible to the pressures of brand image.

It might as well be a sign of respect for the russian mafia who love their black MBs.. Sure, the black colour ties in with Blackberry and to a certain extent AMG but they didn't have that colour last year with the same sponsorship from Blackberry. So it's not about either of those brands. IMHO, I guess this was mainly to highlight the three-pointed MB star which wasn't as visible last year (better visibility for the brand on TV, and anyway AMG comprises only a minority of MB sales volume, so logically - the star should be the highlight of the car). I'm actually surprised that Blackberry still has their name on the car knowing that their current situation is terrible.
Still, better looking than Force India's ruined livery.

[dren]

It would be absurd if it refers to Merc, there are cars with spears protruding from the front wing. But then it is the FIA so sorry Merc.

The article is not referring to the danger the tips present, it is saying the front parts are to soft and disintegrate to easily resulting in a harder part of the nose being left at a height that could still hit the driver

Did we not see something like this when lewis crashed on day 1?

Thank you. Yes, the front looked just fine after Lewis's head on crash.

[Mr.G]

When the Lewis's nose broken it looks like the pillar are not connected to the actual nose. He lost the FW, then the car crash into the wall and still there was a triangular nose like tip which wasn't destroyed. And there were any pillon like constructions.
Can they do it such way that the modesty panel is also the FW holder?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfEIrFyCIAASt-S.jpg:large any pillons fragments.

[CBeck113]

The article states that the FIA believes the noses would disentigrate at a slight impact, so the safety factor (spirit of the rule) is being ignored by these two teams.

[Mr.G]

That's what I thinking, the modesty panel holding the FW instead of the nose cone hub, so they are worried.

[dren]

Gary Anderson noted the Mercedes unit is running around 13k rpm max.

[wesley123]

Yeah, makes sense. How does Red Bull get around this rule with their S-duct?

The Red Bull doesn't have any ducts in the nose. It is all on the front bulkhead

[Huntresa]

But if they passed their crash tests how can FIA think its dangerous ? And the part about it being to high at chassis cant be right either cause they obv have the 525 step on the chassis or just a sloped chassi so no part is to high...

[dren]

Nice beam wing mount forward on the pillars.

[Mr.G]

But if they passed their crash tests how can FIA think its dangerous ? And the part about it being to high at chassis cant be right either cause they obv have the 525 step on the chassis or just a sloped chassi so no part is to high...

I think the point is during the test they do not accelerate to 300+ km/h... They are not worry about the crash, but that the nose will broke like it happen to Lewis.

[heimana]

Gary Anderson noted the Mercedes unit is running around 13k rpm max.

and?

[dren]

Gary Anderson noted the Mercedes unit is running around 13k rpm max.

and?

And what?