Red Bull RB10 Renault

[turbof1]

Adrian Newey should give up thinking about tight packaging as he had done earlier years, and should move on to a conservative cooling package.

Conservative? I don't think Newey knows that word.

It's an evident weakness of Newey. In the past when radical rules came out he always designed fragile cars. Enormously fast, but very breakable. Newey's strength is to design cars in a new aero format.

[Forza]

Jerez - Pre-season Test 1 - DAY 4

[BorisTheBlade]

This is Horrible start from RBR a situation they never been. Lets see how they come out in Bahrain

Eh? In 2011 they missed the first test entirely.
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Well, IMHO that's a big difference:
Missing the first test intentionally and finding out at the second test that your car's reliability is okeyish and the performance is great is one thing.
But going to the first test and realising that your car literally breaks down on every single lap must be the worst that can happen to you.
At least that's how I see it.

/edit: Wrong quote

[Owen.C93]

Looks a bit red in there.


And they know it.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutt ... 31ja84.jpg

[JDC123]

I know its due to different problems, but this is similar to McLaren last year. Instead of improving their cars performance, they had to focus on fixing a major issue with their car, losing ground to the front teams at the start of the season which they never clawed back.

[Shakeman]

Looks a bit red in there.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfTSqkqCQAExS58.jpg:large

Is that where the coal goes?

[beelsebob]

I know its due to different problems, but this is similar to McLaren last year. Instead of improving their cars performance, they had to focus on fixing a major issue with their car, losing ground to the front teams at the start of the season which they never clawed back.

It's more similar though to the MP4-26, where they had major overheating problems, to the extent that they could barely run the car, and then arrived at the first race with an adapted solution, that worked first time, and blew everyone away.

[turbof1]

I know its due to different problems, but this is similar to McLaren last year. Instead of improving their cars performance, they had to focus on fixing a major issue with their car, losing ground to the front teams at the start of the season which they never clawed back.

It's more similar though to the MP4-26, where they had major overheating problems, to the extent that they could barely run the car, and then arrived at the first race with an adapted solution, that worked first time, and blew everyone away.

This time it is much worse though. Red Bull has to implement major packaging changes to solve its issues. Mclaren on the other hand "only" had to fix it's exhaust. Was still a huge work, but Red Bull faces a way bigger task with a lot more of unknowns.

[Owen.C93]

Did anyone else notice that redbull aren't running endplate slots on their rear wing anymore? That was rare for Monza let alone a normal downforce wing in this era.

[drunkmunky]

wow. paint peeling off the exhaust cowl.

[Ozan]

Adrian Newey should give up thinking about tight packaging as he had done earlier years, and should move on to a conservative cooling package.

Yeah, why push for the limits, right? That's not what F1 is about

push the limits and you'll see the smoke

[jamsbong]

I think there are some fundamental flaw in their car cooling design. The car can't even run at the freezing cold weather at Jerez, how is it gonna survive the heat of Bahrain?

My suspicion is that they have overlooked some of the cooling components. The aim now will be to adjust the existing design to remedy this.

Newey hasn't moved away from his unique high rack design, my guess is that when this car becomes reliable. It will win.

[Pilatus]

I think there are some fundamental flaw in their car cooling design. The car can't even run at the freezing cold weather at Jerez, how is it gonna survive the heat of Bahrain?

Average temperature these days in Bahrein is about 19 degrees Celsius.

Sepang is the only hot race before Barcelona... others are rather chilly.

[BorisTheBlade]

They seem to have some serious hot spots. Ambient temperature won't have a big influence as long as they them vented.

[ringo]

The car is fine in normal operation.
What they are doing is going beyond the limits now, with something innovative, which we aren't aware of at the moment. When that is sorted it could be a silver bullet for them this year in winning the championship.
I would not say that Renault is unprepared, too much work has gone in for that to be the case. Redbull is the works team and i'm sure Renault have done simmulations with the Rb10 body work in worst case scenarios.
It's easier to believe they are doing something funky under the skin that should give them a performance edge, similar to how McLaren were trying the octopus exhaust and it was to ambitious to work.
If all fails, they'll just go back to the expected program.