Team: Tim Goss (TD), Sam Michael (SD), Simon Roberts (OD), Neil Oatley (Director of Design & Development), Jonathan Neale (MD), Ron Dennis (McLaren Group CEO)
Drivers: Jenson Button (22), Kevin Magnussen (20), Stoffel Vandoorne (Res)
Already explained here...miguelalvesreis wrote:Interesting link:
http://youtu.be/OAvonclHUpk
Scarbs on McL rear suspension
Coming from F1Racing tweeter @F1Racing_mag
Well, everyone is leaving exhaust out of the equation. Suspension in question is placed behind the exhaust, so the air that it effects will mingle with exhaust gasses. It may even produce some upwash, that can be quite beneficial in high speed corners.McG wrote:Already explained here...miguelalvesreis wrote:Interesting link:
http://youtu.be/OAvonclHUpk
Scarbs on McL rear suspension
Coming from F1Racing tweeter @F1Racing_mag
http://www.f1technical.net/development/435
scarbs wrote:As far shaped fairings being legal, it’s been a while since teams bothered to make shaped structural wishbones and now simply make solid CF inners and bond on ‘fairings’.
It's interesting to see gold foil and temperature sensors on the floor. How on earth is any hot air getting down there?Owen.C93 wrote:Another small beamwing below as well.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutt ... 1ja231.jpg
Maybe they want to see if there is "leakage" of hot air coming out of the cooling outlet under the "butterfly"Pup wrote:It's interesting to see gold foil and temperature sensors on the floor. How on earth is any hot air getting down there?Owen.C93 wrote:Another small beamwing below as well.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutt ... 1ja231.jpg
Of course, the aero isn't exactly the same, but the suspension should be creating a similar "bubble" in front. Which goes back to my thought that it's what happens behind that really matters.If you drive a pickup, common sense might lead you to think that opening the tailgate on the road is the more fuel efficient way to go. In fact, the idea that tailgates block airflow and increase drag became widely circulated, and some truck owners intentionally drive with the tailgates down to ease up on gas consumption.
But when MythBusters Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage drove identical trucks under the same conditions across the desert — one with the tailgate up and the other with it down — Jamie's tailgate-closed pickup outlasted Adam's by more than 30 miles (48 kilometers).
Closing the tailgate actually improves fuel efficiency because it creates a type of airflow called a separated bubble within the bed of the truck. As wind rushes over the moving truck, that bubble of slow-moving air deflects it over the raised tailgate. By guiding surrounding air over and across the bed of the truck, that vortex effect prevents added drag.
Aha! Thanks very much.muelte wrote:This year it is covered by a flap in all cars. If you look closely at the pic, you can see it in the middle of the lower central zone of diffuser.forty-two wrote:Owen.C93 wrote:No separation like last year's Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutt ... 30ja16.jpg
Sorry if this is a stupid question which has already been covered, but where's the starter motor hole on this car? Is that somewhere else entirely on the 2014 formula cars, or does the MGU now serve this function?
It's not the bubble in front that will create the drag, it's the low pressure behind.Pup wrote:AMuS talked to Newey again about the suspension...
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 17312.html
One of the points he brings up is that the added drag will increase fuel consumption, which is critical this year. Says that they may well be shooting themselves in the foot.
It's a valid criticism. I think this lends more support to the idea that we'll see different shrouds at different races. Of course, that depends on exactly how much extra drag there really is. I'm reminded of this experiment from Mythbusters...
Of course, the aero isn't exactly the same, but the suspension should be creating a similar "bubble" in front. Which goes back to my thought that it's what happens behind that really matters.If you drive a pickup, common sense might lead you to think that opening the tailgate on the road is the more fuel efficient way to go. In fact, the idea that tailgates block airflow and increase drag became widely circulated, and some truck owners intentionally drive with the tailgates down to ease up on gas consumption.
But when MythBusters Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage drove identical trucks under the same conditions across the desert — one with the tailgate up and the other with it down — Jamie's tailgate-closed pickup outlasted Adam's by more than 30 miles (48 kilometers).
Closing the tailgate actually improves fuel efficiency because it creates a type of airflow called a separated bubble within the bed of the truck. As wind rushes over the moving truck, that bubble of slow-moving air deflects it over the raised tailgate. By guiding surrounding air over and across the bed of the truck, that vortex effect prevents added drag.
Like the guy martin cycling speed record with the truck in front if him.Pup wrote:AMuS talked to Newey again about the suspension...
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 17312.html
One of the points he brings up is that the added drag will increase fuel consumption, which is critical this year. Says that they may well be shooting themselves in the foot.
It's a valid criticism. I think this lends more support to the idea that we'll see different shrouds at different races. Of course, that depends on exactly how much extra drag there really is. I'm reminded of this experiment from Mythbusters...
Of course, the aero isn't exactly the same, but the suspension should be creating a similar "bubble" in front. Which goes back to my thought that it's what happens behind that really matters.If you drive a pickup, common sense might lead you to think that opening the tailgate on the road is the more fuel efficient way to go. In fact, the idea that tailgates block airflow and increase drag became widely circulated, and some truck owners intentionally drive with the tailgates down to ease up on gas consumption.
But when MythBusters Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage drove identical trucks under the same conditions across the desert — one with the tailgate up and the other with it down — Jamie's tailgate-closed pickup outlasted Adam's by more than 30 miles (48 kilometers).
Closing the tailgate actually improves fuel efficiency because it creates a type of airflow called a separated bubble within the bed of the truck. As wind rushes over the moving truck, that bubble of slow-moving air deflects it over the raised tailgate. By guiding surrounding air over and across the bed of the truck, that vortex effect prevents added drag.
