Ferrari F14T

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PhillipM wrote:He knows because that was the whole ethos Ferrari had behind running it in the first place.
I am wary of believing every letter of every word said or written by F1 or any other race team officials.

Simply because I was on the inside at some point and I/we would dress in fancy words many statements that were not always based in fact. Such is the business of corporate public relations in technical field when everyone wants to protect their knowledge domain (technology) and propagate non costly, meaningless, sometimes misleading yet nice and positive things about their state of affairs.

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Just looking at it, all of the elements of Ferrari's front suspension are within the parallelogram formed by the chassis, wishbones, and uprights. In the other designs the push-rods extend outside of that area.

If we assume that the airflow will be disturbed in the proximity of the suspension member surfaces, and that "the proximity" is a large enough area to include the entire interior of the chassis/wishbones/upright parallelogram in a push-rod design then the Ferrari is aerodynamically ahead in that it does not have the additional disturbance above the parallelogram at the chassis end.

This made more sense in my head than it does in this comment box. Sorry.

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I was reading an article on Sky Sports and found this picture. If you look at the red/white/green stripe at the tip of the nose, you can see what looks like a disturbance in the airflow w/ the flo-viz. Is this because that red/white/green thing is a sticker, or am I just not understanding how flo-viz works?
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scuderiafan wrote:http://e0.365dm.com/14/01/660x350/Jerez ... 0128173905

I was reading an article on Sky Sports and found this picture. If you look at the red/white/green stripe at the tip of the nose, you can see what looks like a disturbance in the airflow w/ the flo-viz. Is this because that red/white/green thing is a sticker, or am I just not understanding how flo-viz works?
that's not disturbance, that's separation

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monsi wrote:Hmmm .. someone more knowledgeable then me will no doubt comment. But given that suspension is in constant movement, I would have thought a much simpler strategy would be simply to keep the moving suspension well clear of the key air pathways you wanted to keep consistent.
I agree with you. Also, I don't think that the air at the front (being so fast) can be controlled that easily.
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Is it me or does there seem to be surprisingly little flo-vis on the suspension? Also, I find the amount all over the full length of the camera housing seems to indicate that is really doing a job.
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Does the funny looking nose cause air to flow faster down to the splitter or is there a bit of turbulence and not a smooth flow to it?
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scuderiafan wrote:http://e0.365dm.com/14/01/660x350/Jerez ... 0128173905

I was reading an article on Sky Sports and found this picture. If you look at the red/white/green stripe at the tip of the nose, you can see what looks like a disturbance in the airflow w/ the flo-viz. Is this because that red/white/green thing is a sticker, or am I just not understanding how flo-viz works?
First of all, it's not a "red/white/green thing", but our beloved "tricolore", the italian flag.

The flow separation is present not only in the corners of the flag, but in the borders of all the livery elements in the nose, so maybe they used too thick a sticker, or not varnished the surfaced, etc.

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It could be seperation initiated by the edge of the sticker.
Personally I think it's more likely just the surface tension of the flow vis on the corner of the sticker affecting things.

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PhillipM wrote:It could be seperation initiated by the edge of the sticker.
Personally I think it's more likely just the surface tension of the flow vis on the corner of the sticker affecting things.
Yeah, possibly the flovis paint is more (or less) attracted to the sticker surface than to paint.

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timbo wrote:
PhillipM wrote:It could be seperation initiated by the edge of the sticker.
Personally I think it's more likely just the surface tension of the flow vis on the corner of the sticker affecting things.
Yeah, possibly the flovis paint is more (or less) attracted to the sticker surface than to paint.
What is more interesting is the fact that the airflow is being diverted by nearly 45o to spill down the flanks and to the rads.

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gilgen wrote:
timbo wrote:
PhillipM wrote:It could be seperation initiated by the edge of the sticker.
Personally I think it's more likely just the surface tension of the flow vis on the corner of the sticker affecting things.
Yeah, possibly the flovis paint is more (or less) attracted to the sticker surface than to paint.
What is more interesting is the fact that the airflow is being diverted by nearly 45o to spill down the flanks and to the rads.
Should be suction of the underside of the chassis.

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gilgen wrote: What is more interesting is the fact that the airflow is being diverted by nearly 45o to spill down the flanks and to the rads.
Well, that was always expected with this nose shape, there's high pressure further up, low pressure underneath and a gently curved and raising nose section to guide it over.

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A quick reminder that this thread is meant to focus on the specific features of this car.

Discussion of the power units is here :arrow: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9259

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According to omnicorse.it Ferrari engine would be 12 kg overweight .