Ferrari F14T

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Yup, apparently they've reinforced the casing to begin with, although heavier it's actually a net weight gain (loss).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ci4Q#t=820[/youtube]

I've linked to the exact point at which he talks about it but sometimes YT doesn't allow it on certain videos, so just skip to 13:40.

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Does anybody know if Ferrari is running the same radiator orientation as they did on the F138? As in vertically while turned inwards?

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trinidefender wrote:Does anybody know if Ferrari is running the same radiator orientation as they did on the F138? As in vertically while turned inwards?
I think they are like in 2013, 'cause outbursts of hot air behind are similar then the internal aerodynamics of the flow is similar

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What is it?
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hmmm ... i noticed something else ....the pitot tube is way forward compared to the F138... and its on the joint with the front wing ... why would they do that ???? :? :? :?

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ironrose wrote: hmmm ... i noticed something else ....the pitot tube is way forward compared to the F138... and its on the joint with the front wing ... why would they do that ???? :? :? :?
The pitot tube must measure the pressure without any influence from the car itself. With the hump in the nose they can't position the tube further back without making it even taller, since it will send air upward.
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CBeck113 wrote:
ironrose wrote: hmmm ... i noticed something else ....the pitot tube is way forward compared to the F138... and its on the joint with the front wing ... why would they do that ???? :? :? :?
The pitot tube must measure the pressure without any influence from the car itself. With the hump in the nose they can't position the tube further back without making it even taller, since it will send air upward.

Understood... But why right on the joint with the front wing? it looks as if its more a part of the front wing rather than the car... i wonder how they will cope with front wing changes

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@ironrose: From a manufacturing point of view it is the easiest place to put it: you don't need a hole in the top of the chassis, only a notch in the nose. It is completely attached to the chassis and not the nose though. This was the furthest forward they could mount it without it becoming a problem when changing the nose.
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CBeck113 wrote:@ironrose: From a manufacturing point of view it is the easiest place to put it: you don't need a hole in the top of the chassis, only a notch in the nose. It is completely attached to the chassis and not the nose though. This was the furthest forward they could mount it without it becoming a problem when changing the nose.
Yes it is esiest way to build, replace (less inmportand) and what is even more importand you dont effect on overall structural ingerity of the monocoque. Coupple on grams and maybe CofG point are gained.

And even more i think who brought that idea in Ferrari...
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I compare the last year F138 pitot placement (look picture on link below)...
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6352 ... 8a473d.png

... with this years monocoque...
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And i think that hump play crucial role in that desision. And also they shorten the repair times in setup process of front steering rack, dampers, torsion bars, pedals etc. Last year was for mechanic pretty annoying when they need keep avoiding that sensor and be extra careful with tools and hands...
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No offense but it's called Monocoque. Monokok hurts my eyes. ^^
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Scarbs says in the latest "Motorsport Monday" release that Ferrari were running their ERS at 37.5% for a limited amount of laps as the 3 large cables carrying the current were overheating.

http://digital.motorsportmonday.com//la ... 6e&pnum=16
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Thunders wrote:No offense but it's called Monocoque. Monokok hurts my eyes. ^^
But seems like a strangely appropriate word for some of the cars this year :lol:

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Owen.C93 wrote:Scarbs says in the latest "Motorsport Monday" release that Ferrari were running their ERS at 37.5% for a limited amount of laps as the 3 large cables carrying the current were overheating.

http://digital.motorsportmonday.com//la ... 6e&pnum=16
Im sure Ferrari will do more cooling next test

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Can't they just cool the cables with water (those exist...i mean water cooled cables)? I wonder what would have a worse impact on weight, heavier thicker cables or thinner cooled ones - only if it's possible ofc.