F1 2014 Car Comparison Thread

[vas_04614]

With more torque, which out of short and long wheelbase cars will be better at handling and driving?

[timbo]

With more torque, which out of short and long wheelbase cars will be better at handling and driving?

Too much other factors to play into besides wheelbase.

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http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... &start=555

That's not the case and 2 pics are not anough to judge. You need to look at them from many angles.
And you need to look inside...

This is OT but, the STR is much tighter than the RBR. Its sidepods are without doubt the smallest on the grid (by 'sidepods' I mean the part that houses the rads and the electronics, not the hole 'engine cover', but even its engine cover is very tight around the engine/exhausts part. Only the rear part of the coke-bottle is a bit large because its cooling outlet are placed low, but it's still very thin.

The Williams packaging is impressive. Maybe few people noticed that the williams has a STR6/STR7 floating/double-floor sidepods. The undercut underneath is big and the cocke-bottle is very thin.[/quote]

[dren]

STR has what looks like a large cooling exit low more rearward along with cooling exits closer to the sidepods like Mercedes. The STR looks bulky past the sidepods around the engine cover when compared to Williams and Mercedes. Ferrari has low wide pods at the base where Williams has a large undercut. The RBR car looks very neat and tidy around the sidepods and at the rear with a lot of clear open space where the STR looks like a garbled mess in comparison.

[dren]

With the few teams running large curving strakes on the front wing ends to divert the flow around the front tires, do you think this means their wings from last year did a worse job of diverting the flow? Several teams have similar wings to last year with tweaks rather than large purposeful looking strakes. Maybe there are front wing updates to follow for several teams.

[RZS10]

All cars that were available, took the pic from another thread, taking the low resolution of the picture into account these estimates aren't that bad given that they differ by just a few cm from the ones with the high-res pics.


comparison to older estimates:
.........Method1...Method2...VTR... new
Ferrari .... 3498 ... 3454 ... 3511 ... 3410
Mercedes . 3528 ... 3475 ... 3540 ... 3427
McLaren .. 3520 ... 3454 ... 3532 ... 3445
Williams .. 3563 ... 3488 ... 3557 ... 3494
Caterham . 3537 ... 3459 ... 3562 ... ----
F. India .... 3464 ... 3411 ... 3460 ... 3394 (3389)
Red Bull ........................ 3477 ... 3445 (3430)
Sauber .................................... 3510 (3503)
Marussia .................................. 3681
Method2 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/141 ... ttempt.jpg already gave decent numbers

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All cars that were available, took the pic from another thread

Take a look at the 4th page of this thread. http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 1&start=45
Great work BTW.

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STR has what looks like a large cooling exit low more rearward along with cooling exits closer to the sidepods like Mercedes. The STR looks bulky past the sidepods around the engine cover when compared to Williams and Mercedes. Ferrari has low wide pods at the base where Williams has a large undercut. The RBR car looks very neat and tidy around the sidepods and at the rear with a lot of clear open space where the STR looks like a garbled mess in comparison.

The STR looks bulky past the sidepods around the engine cover when compared to Williams and Mercedes.

It's look bulky but it's not bulky... that's because the first and main part of its sidepods is very small and low.

The RBR car looks very neat and tidy around the sidepods

Because its sidepods are very high, big and very long. They are not as huge as the Caterham or the Sauber, but they are one of the most massive. No doubt they will evolve. The RBR coke bottle is thin yes. Thinner than the STR yes but not much.
And we are talking about two different philosophies. Maybe STR wants as much downwash as possible for the air that passes above the pods towards the diffuser.

http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.02.14/eyc5pzohbyg4.jpg
http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.02.14/7mz7mzi6tiw.jpg

[RZS10]

All cars that were available, took the pic from another thread

Take a look at the 4th page of this thread. http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 1&start=45
Great work BTW.

I could swear I went through all pages of this thread and did not see that i'm getting old ...

[Mui]

To appreciate the comparative sizes of the side pods, its better to look at the right hand side pods of the cars for the 'tightness' and the left hand side pods for 'length' of side pods. Let your imagination mash those two ideas together to have a better idea of how 'big' the side pods are.

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[Artur Craft]

The Williams packaging is impressive. Maybe few people noticed that the williams has a STR6/STR7 floating/double-floor sidepods. The undercut underneath is big and the cocke-bottle is very thin.

Williams sidepod is ridiculously smaller than any other. It reminds of the Sauber of 2013.

Everything is extremely tight there, it's top, undercut area, and coke-bottle.

[JDC123]

Interesting that Toro Rosso have produced a tighter sidepod and rear end than red bull, and yet seem to be having slightly better reliability.

[beelsebob]

Interesting that Toro Rosso have produced a tighter sidepod and rear end than red bull, and yet seem to be having slightly better reliability.

They haven't. The Red Bull rear end is about 1/3 of the width of the TR one. That, and the TR has a tricking enormous engine bulge above the side pods that the RB doesn't have.

[Blackout]

The STR has its engine oil raidators placed very high and backwards. They are located under the Bull's head. That's why the STR sidepods seem to be the smallest ones and why it has relatively big bulges behind the cockpit.
Bodywork is relatively wide around the engine and the gear-box yes but they say it's a temporary safe spec.