Ferrari F14T

[langwadt]

Are silver cables permitted ? Silver conducts electricity slightly better than copper

well, silver is ~5% better but it is ~15 heavier, aluminium is ~twice the resistance of copper but only ~30% of the weight

[diemaster]

http://www.mezzotech.com/Applications.a ... -radiators

cooling partner of Ferrari
their location in Florida

areas of application:
Aerospace Industry
High Performance Automotive Racing
Department of Defense
Commercial Shell-and-Tube Heat Exchangers



http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 51398.html

[Owen.C93]

http://www.mezzotech.com/Applications.a ... -radiators

cooling partner of Ferrari
their location in Florida

areas of application:
Aerospace Industry
High Performance Automotive Racing
Department of Defense
Commercial Shell-and-Tube Heat Exchangers

http://www.mezzotech.com/portals/0/imag ... ors-lg.png

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 51398.html

Looks like the Sauber actually.

[nhojekim]

Are silver cables permitted ? Silver conducts electricity slightly better than copper

well, silver is ~5% better but it is ~15 heavier, aluminium is ~twice the resistance of copper but only ~30% of the weight

Silver cables heat up pretty easily. So I dont think it woul be smart to use it.

[bill shoe]

Are silver cables permitted ? Silver conducts electricity slightly better than copper

well, silver is ~5% better but it is ~15 heavier, aluminium is ~twice the resistance of copper but only ~30% of the weight

Silver cables heat up pretty easily. So I dont think it woul be smart to use it.

Another issue is contact resistance between the cable itself and the various connectors/connections at the ends. I think I heard something about U.S. houses going to aluminum wiring during WWII copper scarcity, but having fire problems due to increased contact resistance at the ends of the wiring. There's a lot to think about when you have wires transferring 200 hp of electrical energy in a tiny, light car.

[marcush.]

Aluminium electrical conductors are ready for series applications already since 2008-BMW has his Battery leads from back to the front of the car in Aluminium for weight saving .(BMW 7series since 2009)
automotive Validation is a tough call-including 300h of saltspray testing ,Vibration etc.. the connectors are sonic welded to the leads...

[shelly]

From this picture on tobias gruener twitter:
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/433560163497152513 it is very easy to see tha change in shape between f138 and f14t, with the latter using rbr5-9 typical wide and overcut shape

[langwadt]

well, silver is ~5% better but it is ~15 heavier, aluminium is ~twice the resistance of copper but only ~30% of the weight

Silver cables heat up pretty easily. So I dont think it woul be smart to use it.

Another issue is contact resistance between the cable itself and the various connectors/connections at the ends. I think I heard something about U.S. houses going to aluminum wiring during WWII copper scarcity, but having fire problems due to increased contact resistance at the ends of the wiring. There's a lot to think about when you have wires transferring 200 hp of electrical energy in a tiny, light car.

The issue with the aluminium wiring was that if it isn't done just right it get lose and corrodes

don't think it would be an issue in an F1 car

the electricity companies use aluminium wires in some places, the low weight means you can hand a thicker cable from
the same pole and it is cheaper too

[Gridlock]

All the wiring depends on how the MGUs are build.If they have their own AC/DC converters then the link between MGUs and ES will be DC. If they are pure AC the linking will be AC too. I think they are running the first option.

Jerez Ted's Notebook, day two - AC (RenaultSport). Converters in the ES, which IIRC were a big part of the thermal issue.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

GA once again on the F14 T.



via AutoSport

[eslam1986]

from Lorenzo De Luca : Ferrari F14 use Ttitanium microtube heat exchanger with two tenths of a millimeter internal diameter used to cool the V6 059/3, capable of ensuring the necessary cooling with much smaller dimensions.

[eslam1986]

Ferrari engineers are studying a system which allows to cool down the V6 taking advantage of a feature of the engines 2014: direct injection. Basically, when engine power is not required, there is absolutely no fuel and no ignition of the spark plug: air enters only through pressure from the turbo.This lead to a cooling of the piston crown, the cylinder and the combustion chamber without having to use, as they did with V8, a small amount of fuel.

[trinidefender]

Ferrari engineers are studying a system which allows to cool down the V6 taking advantage of a feature of the engines 2014: direct injection. Basically, when engine power is not required, there is absolutely no fuel and no ignition of the spark plug: air enters only through pressure from the turbo.This lead to a cooling of the piston crown, the cylinder and the combustion chamber without having to use, as they did with V8, a small amount of fuel.

I'm fairly sure all the engine manufacturers are doing this. None of them want to burn fuel they do not have and as well as that turn that fuel into heat in the engine. It is a fairly basic principle so for now it would be safe to assume all the engines do this

[Holm86]

from Lorenzo De Luca : Ferrari F14 use Ttitanium microtube heat exchanger with two tenths of a millimeter internal diameter used to cool the V6 059/3, capable of ensuring the necessary cooling with much smaller dimensions.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_xQL ... lheat2.png

This could be related to the "exotic materials" there was talks about on the closed reveal of the engine.

[Holm86]

Ferrari engineers are studying a system which allows to cool down the V6 taking advantage of a feature of the engines 2014: direct injection. Basically, when engine power is not required, there is absolutely no fuel and no ignition of the spark plug: air enters only through pressure from the turbo.This lead to a cooling of the piston crown, the cylinder and the combustion chamber without having to use, as they did with V8, a small amount of fuel.

I'm fairly sure all the engine manufacturers are doing this. None of them want to burn fuel they do not have and as well as that turn that fuel into heat in the engine. It is a fairly basic principle so for now it would be safe to assume all the engines do this

I dont see anything special or innovative in cutting the fuel injection either. To me its just logical to do so. And if they are doing something it could be what i has been talking about for some time which is keeping the throttle bodies open when the driver is off throttle. Eccentially a sort of cold blowing. This would have some advantages which I've written about in other threads.