looks like Kimi is taking the "Shuey habit", u know, adjusing the brakes before each curve
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I agree: after three months without F1 racing, life losts its meaning! I know I'm going to be short of breath and my heart will pump hard in the minute before the red lights go off. I think Alonso and Felipinho will need a little magic if they wish to win this year.Principessa wrote:Well, I was glad I crawled out of my warm bed this night to go watch the qualifying session for the Australian Grand Prix...
I hope for a very exciting race tomorrow and some overtaking!!
I couldn't disagree more. What credit does Super Aguri deserve? They received a chassis from another team and drove it to its potential. Big deal. Forgive me if I'm not at all impressed.ConsFW wrote:I second that! There's no way around it for the naysayers, it's either the car, or the driver, or both. Any way they try to twist it, there's no option but to give credit where credit is due. Super Aguri, Sato, and Davidson have done a great job thus far!RacingManiac wrote:Sato is the man of the hour....customer car or not, a brand new Williams or Spyker can't match the pace of a year old Honda(heavily revised one at that by SA), neither can the owner of the alleged intellectual property of Honda Racing.....
It'd be unfair to take this away from SA, since they are clearly one of the hardest working bunch and making their A-team look silly with one year of development work on them....
I second this.bhallg2k wrote:I couldn't disagree more. What credit does Super Aguri deserve? They received a chassis from another team and drove it to its potential. Big deal. Forgive me if I'm not at all impressed.
Actually, I'll amend that a little: kudos to Sato for not putting the car into the wall or into the back of another car. Good going, fella.
I mean, they blatantly tested with a Honda RA06 all winter, put a few parts on it Wednesday, calling it an SA07, and then qualified it in the top-10 for the race. That result does not happen for a one-year-old team, especially with a car that's supposedly just "out of the box." It's bullshit of the highest order.
Honda, Super Aguri, Red Bull and STR should all be banned from competition until each are competing with cars of their own design and construction.
Not impressed? Forget the controversy surrounding the chassis for a moment. Sato and Davidson extracted just about all there was to extract from their cars. They are not the managers, they are not the engineers - they are the drivers. Their job is to pull out the maximum from whatever machinery they are given, and they did that. What more could you ask for from a driver?bhallg2k wrote:I couldn't disagree more. What credit does Super Aguri deserve? They received a chassis from another team and drove it to its potential. Big deal. Forgive me if I'm not at all impressed.ConsFW wrote:I second that! There's no way around it for the naysayers, it's either the car, or the driver, or both. Any way they try to twist it, there's no option but to give credit where credit is due. Super Aguri, Sato, and Davidson have done a great job thus far!RacingManiac wrote:Sato is the man of the hour....customer car or not, a brand new Williams or Spyker can't match the pace of a year old Honda(heavily revised one at that by SA), neither can the owner of the alleged intellectual property of Honda Racing.....
It'd be unfair to take this away from SA, since they are clearly one of the hardest working bunch and making their A-team look silly with one year of development work on them....
Well funny then why Honda don't use their own car from 2006? Its not like Red Bull/STR where they were both given the same car with a different engine bolt onto the back and you have 4 new cars. Aguri got a old Honda, which logic dictates should be inferior to the cars that's made for 2007, adapted it to run on Bridgestone(and its not like they can transfer knowledge from an Arrows to a Honda for that front, and it wasn't like Honda last year was all that steller, sure it won Hungary, through pure lottery), and they even beat Honda's own effort for 2007. If anyone should complain, it should be Honda itself....vyselegend wrote:you can add me too. Spyker are fighting like lions to try and do something good on their own. Not to mention their adversaries are a B-team of Honda, because this is legal, but this!?
It's not their car! would you applaud spyker if suddenly they ran a borrowed 248F1 succesfully?
bhallg2k wrote:
I couldn't disagree more. What credit does Super Aguri deserve? They received a chassis from another team and drove it to its potential. Big deal. Forgive me if I'm not at all impressed.
Actually, I'll amend that a little: kudos to Sato for not putting the car into the wall or into the back of another car. Good going, fella.
I mean, they blatantly tested with a Honda RA06 all winter, put a few parts on it Wednesday, calling it an SA07, and then qualified it in the top-10 for the race. That result does not happen for a one-year-old team, especially with a car that's supposedly just "out of the box." It's bullshit of the highest order.
Honda, Super Aguri, Red Bull and STR should all be banned from competition until each are competing with cars of their own design and construction.
bhallg2k wrote:Could anyone see the dot? I say ditch the compound rule.
Did they not do better than Williams and Spyker nonetheless? So using a customer car is only unfair if you make it to the top ten? Is it only murder if it's a clean shot to the head? Don't be ridiculous.Hondanisti wrote:if it was so easy to drive a so called customer car to its potential then why didn't STR garner a top 10 grid position, pray tell ?
Wow, Barrichello finished ahead of Sato. Did Button? Regardless, no one is bitching about Honda losing to SA. We are upset because SA is waltzing in with almost no money spent (in F1 terms at least), and being close to getting points, while other teams have to spend hundreds of millions a year for DECADES to get to the same place.for all of the people who haven't clued into this yet and think that Aguri are ahead of the factory with these "customer cars": Excuse me but Barrichello finished ahead of Sato. What race were you watching ?
In the same manner the SA car has smoked Williams and Spyker all winter.secondly, if you folks got your head out of the sand for 1 millisecond and followed the winter testing, the factory car has been smoking the Aguri on long runs right up to Bahrain.
If you weren't a blind, blithering Honda F1 fanboy you'd realize that the race pace and 1 lap pace of SA was faster than that of both Williams and Spyker.thirdly, if you're a serious F1 fan, you'd know the difference between race pace and 1 lap pace and know the distinction and wouldn't read more into the qualy success of Sato than you did.
Wait, are you saying - oh my God - that Super Aguri has to design their OWN REAR WING to meet the gap regulations!!!! OH MY GOD. Oh wait, no big deal. Williams and Spyker had to DESIGN THEIR OWN CAR! Which do you suppose is more difficult and expensive?ourth, the SA07 has to meet the 2007 crash test rules and revamped clarification on the rear wing gap fences that prevents flexi-wings closing the gap between the 2 elements and reducing drag. So the construction is not the same and if you looked at the front wing closely (which I know you have not ) you'll notice on the debut SA07 photos that the front wing is one that Honda never used in 2006.
No, I wouldn't throw them out. But if I were capable of painting on a small circle, I'd certainly be capable of painting a larger one. The tires could have been visibly marked without having to re-manufacture them.fifth, if you've been paying attention, regarding the complaints about the soft compound identification: the Bridgestone people said that the prime and option markings for Melbourne were a temporary fix (if you had a full warehouse inventory of tires that weren't marked after the FIA finally got its act together to finally declare the red tire as a rule, would you throw them out ?).
For a fan of a team which has just won a race, you seem to like kicking people when they're down which isn't a sign of a winner with class.
