Mercedes AMG F1 W05

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maybe they were playing around with different setups, testing how far they can go with the rake

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BorisTheBlade wrote: Looks as huge as i thought. Also the lower outlet on the right side looks bigger. So maybe they have the intercooler on the left side.
Think you can tell this just from the engine release photos. Turbo outlet is on the left hand side, as is theplenum inlet, same as on the Renault.
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Bredd wrote:Would love to know if there is under or oversteer occurring. If the drivers are having to work the wheel hard and any general impressions.

I had heard Mcnish state W05 appeared to have a bit of understeer which in my view is not a bad thing as I believe rear downforce is the difficult commodity to come by these days. Understeer tells us the rear is working a bit more than the front, they can get the front to be more positive easier than the back.

Additionally, I'm reasonably certain teams aren't anywhere near dialed in with the setups for these cars anyway, so it's still a bit soon to recognize specifically what teams are going to have to work out. If I remember right, W04 had lots of understeer during pre-season testing.

I have to remember what Mario Andretti said about driving a new racing car though. He stated something to the effect of he could tell whether or not the car had four legs in the first lap as opposed to a bad car which would have 3 legs and 1 broken.

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one more pic on the new engine cover http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ev/164.jpg

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Haven't spotted this before! Nice detail!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6Ffkm ... sp=sharing

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Ferraripilot wrote:
Bredd wrote:Would love to know if there is under or oversteer occurring. If the drivers are having to work the wheel hard and any general impressions.

I had heard Mcnish state W05 appeared to have a bit of understeer which in my view is not a bad thing as I believe rear downforce is the difficult commodity to come by these days. Understeer tells us the rear is working a bit more than the front, they can get the front to be more positive easier than the back.
They have understeer even though they have a highly developed front wing which would normally induce oversteer, says a lot about the rear grip levels.

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Anon123 wrote:
They have understeer even though they have a highly developed front wing which would normally induce oversteer, says a lot about the rear grip levels.[/quote]


Agreed. I think they could further develop the outer area of the second element as Red Bull. 6 elements must be better than 5 right? Where does it end right :lol:

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Anon123 wrote: They have understeer even though they have a highly developed front wing which would normally induce oversteer, says a lot about the rear grip levels.
Perhaps though, the front wing could be highly developed to optimise airflow around the rest of the car, not to provide maximum downforce.
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MacX wrote:Interesting new engine cover?
http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0220/45/ ... 977f45.jpg
Almost looks like they made the first step for a Mclaren style rear, to have the heat exit up high, above the so called, still absent butterfly suspension.

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Are people just assuming they have understeer on the basis that McNish stated this, or are there other sources of information which back this claim up?
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theformula wrote:Are people just assuming they have understeer on the basis that McNish stated this, or are there other sources of information which back this claim up?
A few pundits have mentioned it. Can't help thinking a slightly understeery setup could be deliberate to help keep the think on the road during testing rather then spinning off and ending your day.
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Coefficient wrote:
theformula wrote:Are people just assuming they have understeer on the basis that McNish stated this, or are there other sources of information which back this claim up?
A few pundits have mentioned it. Can't help thinking a slightly understeery setup could be deliberate to help keep the think on the road during testing rather then spinning off and ending your day.
Could also be driver preference or an attempt to limit slip angle to preserve tires...and then progressively work towards a more balanced setup and see how far they can take it while still preserving tires

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The new engine cover is following the cooling idea of red bull cars of recent past years.

I believe that some air from inside side pods is rerouted to deflect around manifold towards top of engine chamber where it crosses with another air flow coming from intake opening at top of roll hoop. Merged current at top of engine chamber flows down the top of the engine cover to expanded opening at the back.

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YUL-F1 wrote:The new engine cover is following the cooling idea of red bull cars of recent past years.

I believe that some air from inside side pods is rerouted to deflect around manifold towards top of engine chamber where it crosses with another air flow coming from intake opening at top of roll hoop. Merged current at top of engine chamber flows down the top of the engine cover to expanded opening at the back.
Do you mean: part of hot air from sidepods is channeled towards up to meet a faster airflow coming from roll-hoop?

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Winter Testing 2014 - Session 2, Day 3 - Bahrain (21.02.2014)

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