Ferrari F14T

[emmepi27]

Monkey seat!
Edit (photo @f1-Aero)

[scuderiafan]

Looking at magnussen time, im little worried, but i did expect that

Why? It's just testing, everybody's on different programs and they're not racing. Lap times mean nothing, especially in this seasons pre-testing where the drivetrain is brand new.

[stefan_]

Winter Testing 2014 - Session 2, Day 2 - Bahrain (20.02.2014)

[Mr.G]

On the rear end pictures, on the RW the stains, could it be UV light flovis?

[Hail22]

On the monkey seat, from where I can see on the photos, is it passing the rear crash structure? or are my eyes slightly aloft?

If it is, my view is the exhaust could blow hot gases onto the monkey seat pushing air upwards in order to break up the drag created by upper flap / element of the rear wing whilst the DRS flap is closed, unless I'm mistaken? (which I feel I might be).

[NormalChris]

Any thoughts about the lack of complexity to the FW? It's by far the least profiled wing down the pitlane. I assume the heavily sloped nose compensates somewhat but can't imagine it makes up for the multitude of missing elements on the FW. Also if they're running such a basic fw what does that say about their rear df? I'm sure the fw will be updated by aus but it's pretty simple even for a "placeholder".

[Mr.G]

They were able to build much more complex FW last season, so no doubt they are able to do it this season too.

They've said that the airo package will come in second Bahrain test, so lest wait for that. Obviously they're currently concentrating to the PU now and to the rear end airo at some point...

[TechF1]

Nobody noticed the driveshaft?? It's in a wing shape again

[wesley123]

No it's not, the drive shaft is visible

[TechF1]

No it's not, the drive shaft is visible

I thought it was a reflection [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND COLD SWEAT] sorry

[Artur Craft]

Ok, I didn't have time to read all this thread but here is caught my attention with F14T:

The cokebottle is good but it doesn't match/fit/combines with the nose solution, at first sight, given that if you have a very big area unobstructed at the cokebottle, you need to send as much airflow as possible there.

It was speculated by some that Ferrari's nose aims were to increase the front df but that's not what I think it's purpose is. And Mark Smith said this same thing to Kravitz on his notebook(day 3 at Jerez).

The ramp shaped nose acts like a diffuser, creating low pressure underneath it, but as it has a very short span and no side walls to seal it, it won't create significant downforce as it will easily sucks air in that area to cut off the low pressure build up.

Imho, the aim is the net or chain effect of it. I think Ferrari is using it to encourage most of the airflow on the top of FW to go between the wheels and not outwards of it. Like this(sorry for the poor MSPaint drawings)


Even in the endplate, it induces air not outwards of the wheel

With this, Ferrari keeps sending good amount of airflow, about the same as if they had a less obstructed nose, to the teatray/splitter=>sidepods=>cokebottle. What would be different to the other cars, which have more open noses(FI, STR, Williams, Sauber, Mclaren but Caterham and Lotus not included as I think they send quite more airflow underneath their "noses") would be the divert of FW airflow inwards of the wheels. Maybe Ferrari found out this could lead to less interference with the spinning wheels/tyres vortices and, therefore, less overall drag and a net gain on aero efficiency.

But this is just an speculation, Ferrari might have messed up with this solution.

The thing I really don't understand and like about this car is it's diffuser:
http://s29.postimg.org/fs6toj2md/Senza_ ... _copia.jpg

Ferrari is very far from using all the available volume of it. The others car in the comparison are surely sucking more air with it and thus generating more downforce with it, obviously.

[wesley123]

The wing is outwash, just like previous years and every other car on the grid. The pillars are inwards and will allow some air to pull in under the nose.

Also, the diffuser isn't necessarily missing any area, since it is the center section which will get closer to the ground than the rest of the floor, thus, it is more prone to stalling. Having a less critical shaped area prevents this from happening.

[wesley123]

No it's not, the drive shaft is visible

I thought it was a reflection [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND COLD SWEAT] sorry

It took me a few times though to actually see the drive shaft

[Artur Craft]

The wing is outwash, just like previous years and every other car on the grid. The pillars are inwards and will allow some air to pull in under the nose.

Also, the diffuser isn't necessarily missing any area, since it is the center section which will get closer to the ground than the rest of the floor, thus, it is more prone to stalling. Having a less critical shaped area prevents this from happening.

If the wing is sending airflow outwards, then I think this nose solution won't last long as I can't see any other reason for opting for it. And it's not only me, Mark Smith was very cautious to say anything(obviously as he is a rival) but you can pretty much see how he thinks this Ferrari and Mercedes nose solution is not ideal.

About the diffuser, that one on the comparison pic is way too conservative. All others are exploring much more out of it and it's highly unlikely all of them would be using diffusers which were prone to stalling.

But it's not the end of the world for Ferrari, that diffuser is just a test as you can see a much more agressive one in this picture(posted on this very same page)
http://i.imgur.com/dLSZtVu.jpg

Huge difference from one diffuser to another. Ferrari is just exploring very different layouts


edit: it's also curious how F14T's FW is incredibly simple compared to any other car. It has no vortex generators as does the C33(previous Saubers already had those), not as many cut off as Mercedes and Red Bull and the flaps themselves are quite flat while most the others have very different angles all over it. I'm not sure if this simplicity is a bad thing or not but won't be surprised if they introduce several modifications on it early on in the season
http://i.imgur.com/cKwu8Lw.jpg

[Artur Craft]

On the monkey seat, from where I can see on the photos, is it passing the rear crash structure? or are my eyes slightly aloft?

If it is, my view is the exhaust could blow hot gases onto the monkey seat pushing air upwards in order to break up the drag created by upper flap / element of the rear wing whilst the DRS flap is closed, unless I'm mistaken? (which I feel I might be).

Ferrari's monkey seat seems to be way higher than the others, but I'm not sure of the reason for it.

What I know is that exhaust gases will only reduce pressure, never increase pressure as they are highly energetic and fast moving. But even if you could do that, increasing pressure under RW to break up the drag of the upper flap would also mean breaking up, or said differently, almost neutralizing the downforce of it, and nobody would want that.

The monkey seats are being positioned right over the pipe because it will decrease pressure under the monkey seat element and thus increasing it's downforce.

PS: Sorry for the FW comment on previous post, as other members have already pointed out the incredible simplicity of it and how is does indeed contrast to that of 2013