Ferrari F14T

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thomin
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Rikhart wrote:Thats a worse version of what they have now, yes its legal.
It's the 2001 nose on top of the current one...a vanity-panel if you will. It certainly would look nicer, but I just wasn't sure if that kink in the nose was due to the new rules about pick-up points or whether it's genuinely more efficient.

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thomin wrote:
Rikhart wrote:Thats a worse version of what they have now, yes its legal.
It's the 2001 nose on top of the current one...a vanity-panel if you will. It certainly would look nicer, but I just wasn't sure if that kink in the nose was due to the new rules about pick-up points or whether it's genuinely more efficient.
Looks aside (I don't agree with you, but that's not the issue), that would mess up what they are trying to do with airflow over the nose completely...
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Anyways are there any words of next weeks aero update? I cant trust ferrari they always say they bring aero updates, and in the end its only a minor front wing change

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As I remember there was even word of B spec of the car... Anyway I don't put too much hope in their updates as they often goes in wrong direction.

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darkmninya wrote:Anyways are there any words of next weeks aero update? I cant trust ferrari they always say they bring aero updates, and in the end its only a minor front wing change
Excuse me, but you are wrong. Ferrari is not bringing only minor updates. Last year if you followed Free Practice sessions, you could see that they brought many updates. In fact, only Red Bull seemd to had more updates than them. They had more updates than Mercedes and Mclaren, but the difference was that almost every bit on the car didn't make it for the qualy and race, because the feed back from the wind tunnel was wrong, and the updates were making the car slower. Until September, at every weekend Ferrari was arriving with lots of bites on the car, but simply these bites were not working. In November they had the same solutions at the back of the car since May. But the problems is their problems are deep and structural, it's not down only to the wind tunnel, because Mp4-27 (Mclaren's 2012 car) the only car that was superior to a Red Bull during the whole season as pure performance, in all this Newey era 2010-2013, was designed and developed in Koln, in the same facilities that Ferrari was working. Their faillures must have been in the quality of the engineers, Pat Fry in a rare moment of naivity that 2013 faillure was not down because the wind tunnel, but the development path they took with the car in June. But Ferrari are confident that with Allison, Dirk de Beer, and other engineers they took, they should have a better team of engineers. We will only see in Australia and Malaysia if they are telling the truth.

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Notice that the RW drs flap is stuck in a partially open position in all of the above photos. I can't imagine that was on purpose.

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zioture wrote:only a a trick of the light, not an inlet

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhE1sZ9CUAE0i-s.jpg
You may be right, but i'm still not convinced. Those are two different days of testing (ALO driving in the inset photo). If we could get another picture of Raikkonen today at that angle then we'd know for sure.
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I wasn't on the PC since i posted that rake comparison, maybe i should not have made it being half asleep, not really thinking and in about 2 minutes ... those who criticized it were completely right:
taking a look at the rims (i shopped them in there, matching the visible part of the rim and the tyre diameter/height) it might seem that the merc is higher
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but as beelsebob wrote ... a small change in angle might affect the result by quite a bit:
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i guess this illustration goes without explanation...

comparing rake from the back of the cars is not really the way to go :D
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I heard it was due to fuel going into the exhaust pipe, and not only on the Ferrari, but the sauber too...
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Practice start by Kimi, footage from yesterday. Can't say I'm too impressed with the sound, quite low revs... :(

http://youtu.be/8ZgMf_lQ21o?t=3m52s

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Raikkonens crash

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW5NFV11fUA[/youtube]

not the best video, but better than pictures
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Drs seems opened in the video like in pictures posted before or is it my imagination?

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muelte wrote:Drs seems opened in the video like in pictures posted before or is it my imagination?
If you look here at 4.14 you see Raikkonen wobling around on exit before the crash.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcZQpSmizs[/youtube]

And Raikkonen kinda admitted it was his fault.
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