Most pec...bizarre aerodynamics thread.

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Cuky
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was that 2009 Williams thing ever raced? I remember seeing it in FP on Friday, but I can't really remember if I saw it in races.

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Cuky wrote:was that 2009 Williams thing ever raced? I remember seeing it in FP on Friday, but I can't really remember if I saw it in races.
It was used in testing after it was disallowed due to it's proximity to the fuel filler cap.
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Seems like you guys have no contact with the timeattack world..

there are some rules but aerodynamically there are not much rules.
So those are for me the most exciting production car based racers at the moment...

Just a little glimpse of all the glory:

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REal men play with twins!

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If we're straying from F1, how about a gas turbine engine used to spool the turbo and the exhaust gases used to blow the diffuser? Zero turbo lag and no off-throttle issues with aero stability on the blown diffuser. All made in a garage too...

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andylaurence wrote:If we're straying from F1, how about a gas turbine engine used to spool the turbo and the exhaust gases used to blow the diffuser? Zero turbo lag and no off-throttle issues with aero stability on the blown diffuser. All made in a garage too...

http://speedhillclimb.com/mannics-quick/
You could do something similar with an electric hybrid Andy.

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The Jigsaw Puzzle Special... Waterloo Glen 1974.

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One of the strangest F-1 Lotus all time : the ill-fated Lotus 76 here DSQ in the US GP 1974 in its 72-like disguise.

I remember how enthusiastic I was about the new F-1 Lotus expected already for 1973... which finally turned to be the F-2 "Texaco Star" aka Lotus 74. Then came the "real" new F-1 Lotus for 1974 : the JPS Mk1. For me still a big disappointment today !

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autogyro wrote:
andylaurence wrote:If we're straying from F1, how about a gas turbine engine used to spool the turbo and the exhaust gases used to blow the diffuser? Zero turbo lag and no off-throttle issues with aero stability on the blown diffuser. All made in a garage too...

http://speedhillclimb.com/mannics-quick/
You could do something similar with an electric hybrid Andy.
Electric hybrid doesn't have exhaust gases to blow the diffuser, turbine engine does :mrgreen:

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tomazy wrote:
autogyro wrote:
andylaurence wrote:If we're straying from F1, how about a gas turbine engine used to spool the turbo and the exhaust gases used to blow the diffuser? Zero turbo lag and no off-throttle issues with aero stability on the blown diffuser. All made in a garage too...

http://speedhillclimb.com/mannics-quick/
You could do something similar with an electric hybrid Andy.
Electric hybrid doesn't have exhaust gases to blow the diffuser, turbine engine does :mrgreen:
_hybrid_ so both combustion and electric, the combustion part could be a turbine like the Jaguar C-X75

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Ahhhh, Pikes Peak is like a modern art exhibition.... :mrgreen:

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tomazy wrote:
autogyro wrote:
andylaurence wrote:If we're straying from F1, how about a gas turbine engine used to spool the turbo and the exhaust gases used to blow the diffuser? Zero turbo lag and no off-throttle issues with aero stability on the blown diffuser. All made in a garage too...

http://speedhillclimb.com/mannics-quick/
You could do something similar with an electric hybrid Andy.
Electric hybrid doesn't have exhaust gases to blow the diffuser, turbine engine does :mrgreen:
Of course but you could use an ERS-H motor generator solely in motor form to blow from the turbo no matter what engine revs you had. No lag and plenty of air for the diffuser at all times and with much lower weight penalty.
Super caps for E storage and a ERS-K in generator mode (overrun) only.
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Dodge Deora 1967
It is Exotic.
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Ford Mustang Station Wagon
Exotic
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Maverick Station Wagon
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Not much aero going on in those images, idfx
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Yep, that''s just weird cars now. time attack is a good area to explore (especially the cars DAMNINice mentioned).

They are pushing the limits of what works and as mentioned have limited but tightening restrictions.

Nemo detail shots and under the panels:

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The MCA car on the first year was generating so much down force that it was bottoming out on the straight when it reached top speed.

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