I am not sure he is talking about a late Apex either.
I think I can see what RW means now based on Timbos drawing.
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SectorOne wrote:Rob Wilson summarizes the drivers,
http://www.autox.in/feature/report-card-formula-one/
Some interesting comments regarding driving styles, some known, some unknown, to me at least.
A very specific explanation to shortening the corner. Thoughts?Peter D. Windsor wrote:At this point I defer to some notes I made when I was sitting in the back of a road car at Bruntingthorpe, not so long ago. Rob Wilson, the F3 winner and driver-coach, was in the passenger seat, and behind the wheel sat a current F1 driver. My notes went as follows:
"Gently apply the brakes for the briefest moment before applying real pressure. Brake to the slowest point of the corner, not the entry. This way you avoid surprising the car and it will stop in a shorter distance. Ease off the braking by a tenth in the last tenth of the braking zone. Tease the steering wheel slightly so that the car can begin its turn. Then apply additional lock. Little turn, big turn. Apply more lock mid-corner. Sharpen the end of the turn so you can set yourself up to flatten the car and drive diagonally to the exit. To take an edge off the turn, it may be better to reduce the braking or apply a little throttle rather than suddenly reduce the lock. Making the corner 'shorter' is better than going for the highest minimum speed. The more available power, the sharper your mid-corner turn."
He's been known to contradict himself before, and also Senna did not do it at every corner. But the apex flick looks exactly as a "shortening the corner" move, applied to some corners by Senna but not all as the commentator says.raymondu999 wrote:The Senna apex flick is quite a different thing to Rob Wilson's short corners. In episode 1 of the flying lap Rob Wilson specifically calls Senna a "long corner" driver.
The flatspot bit, that is what he means, yes. But the question is whether or not there is real efficacy to that mode of driving.
Which is ironic. He often talks about the first test he gives new drivers: have them set a lap in a mediocre car, then to go out and beat their time in identical equipment to show that they aren't as fast as they think. Only two drivers ever matched him (or better): Kimi, who did exactly the same lap as Rob, and Lewis, who immediately went faster than him.bonjon1979 wrote:He really can't cope with any suggestion that Kimi might not be the faster thing out there!
Vettel? he's definitely not the driver I would think of when it comes to calculated, tactical driving..Gridlock wrote:I think Lewis has what you might term "raw speed" but the calculating, mathematical, tactical driving that eg Vettel excels at may elude him. It may not be polite to compare 'intelligence' but....
And nothing says "listen to me" to a racing driver like setting a faster time than him
Then I don't think you've been paying attention (no offence intended) - it's masked by the car but IMO he's more like the Professor than many would admit. Not saying he's the best tactician driving right now, but it's in him.Dyanxx wrote: Vettel? he's definitely not the driver I would think of when it comes to calculated, tactical driving..