Force India VJM07 Mercedes

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Sebp wrote:http://twitter.com/ScarbsF1/status/439416683225051136

Has anyone noticed other teams doing the same?
Wonder if this is a type of "decoy"? So they show of with a much slimmed down body at some point. Just like when Mercedes showed up with their spilt airbox. Some people already anticipated that they would move the intake more backwards later and form the classic blade type roll hoop.

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Holm86 wrote:
Sebp wrote:http://twitter.com/ScarbsF1/status/439416683225051136

Has anyone noticed other teams doing the same?
Wonder if this is a type of "decoy"? So they show of with a much slimmed down body at some point. Just like when Mercedes showed up with their spilt airbox. Some people already anticipated that they would move the intake more backwards later and form the classic blade type roll hoop.
It does make me think of the Benetton B187 intakes!
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Holm86 wrote:
Sebp wrote:http://twitter.com/ScarbsF1/status/439416683225051136

Has anyone noticed other teams doing the same?
Wonder if this is a type of "decoy"? So they show of with a much slimmed down body at some point. Just like when Mercedes showed up with their spilt airbox. Some people already anticipated that they would move the intake more backwards later and form the classic blade type roll hoop.
There is no decoy whatsoever. how else would the cooling gills in that area work if there was no ability for the air to get under there?
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Yeah very cleaver, by Force india... it leaves more space for cooling -

here is the sauber. you can see the shouler area has that peice non removable?

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Force India VJM07 gets on a diet for Melbourne, lighter monocoque ready for Hülkenberg and Perez, they achieve sub 691 Kg and can play with some ballast:

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asymmetrical placement of the cooling gills on top of the side pods (Bahrain - last day of testing):

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Interesting splitter arrangement.

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is it me or does the bulkhead is huge.
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2014 Australian Grand prix - Wednesday, 12.03.2014

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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stefan_ wrote:2014 Australian Grand prix - Wednesday, 12.03.2014

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Interesting to see that they have ditched the strakes (idk the right english word for it) in the middle of the twin slits on the rear wing endplates.

Jerez and Bahrain (just for a comparison):

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i suspect they were there for stiffness and perhaps were producing an unintended vortex? I suspec they weren't necessarily aligned with the flow on track. But that's just conjecture.
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Can someone help me out to find out the reason why the VJM07 has such a short wheelbase, perfect for street-esque circuits, but an the other hand they are running very long gears. Peter Windsor noticed that the VJM07 had the longest gear ratio of all the teams at the pre-season Bahrain test.

It's doesn't make sense to me, If you are building a short wheelbase car, why not implement a shorter gear ratio? This car seems like it is a Jack of all trades, master of none. The long gear ratio might be very handy at low downforce circuits but you generally want a stiffer and preferably long wheelbase car for those type of circuits.

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Nice shot of vanity panel on the nose
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Cooling gills on top of the side pods are back after their absence in Melbourne, not surprisingly. (last seen in Bahrain testing):

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Malaysia 2014 - Wednesday/Thursday (26/27.03.2014)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985