Red Bull RB10 Renault

[Yurasyk]

2014 Australian Grand Prix, Friday - 14.03.2014
http://i.imgur.com/5QxhvTt.jpg

Maybe, I have missed a discussion of this issue but what do you think guys about absense of gills in endplates above a rearwing (where "Infinity" sing is placed)? Earlier we could see this only in extremely low-df configurations for Monza or Spa with a much narrower, almost flat rearwing.

[gandharva]

is this what u meant ?
http://imageshack.com/a/img849/3507/yent.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img580/7388/otpk.jpg

No the intercooler I'm talking about is your red arrow.

The positioning of this intercooler is only possible because of the clever exhaust routing. Seems the 6 exhaust pipes join as far back as possible and very low down.

[i70q7m7ghw]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PthW ... Jmij7O.jpg

So the intake in green feds the s-duct

but what are the red ones for? Do they suck air into the pod in front of the nose an canalise it somewhere else? where to? drivers feet again? ^^

Left one feeds the diffuser, right one feeds the f-duct.

[WALL_ZACK]

but Ted said (during the first test) that Mercs version is aero positive so has a positive effect on the car?

so surely It seems to be red bull have found a clever solution but missed a trick?

I don't think RBR have missed a trick as such, the philosophy of the front end of their car is just different to Mercedes & Ferrari and so the least disruptive camera housing (i.e. not there at all) is the best fit for what they're doing.

Mercedes/Ferrari use their camera housings to coax the air washing off the sides of their nose cone into the flow under the chassis/through the suspension rather than trying to maximise the height of the nose tip to accomplish the same thing.

RBR have a flatter nose with the 'keel' design aimed at getting more flow between the front wing pylons and into the flow under the chassis rather than diverting the top side flow. Side mounted housings may have messed with some flow off the front wing so maybe better to not have them (the legendary vortices used to seal the floor perhaps?) Given this, the camera housings are not universally positive, just more beneficial if you follow the Merc/Fezza philosophy.

[basti313]

I don't think RBR have missed a trick as such, the philosophy of the front end of their car is just different to Mercedes & Ferrari and so the least disruptive camera housing (i.e. not there at all) is the best fit for what they're doing.

Mercedes/Ferrari use their camera housings to coax the air washing off the sides of their nose cone into the flow under the chassis/through the suspension rather than trying to maximise the height of the nose tip to accomplish the same thing.

I still don't buy this. For Ferrari we can argue with the shape of the nose, ok...but for Merc there is no reasonable explanation for anything like guiding the air. And if the camera would be in an upgoing stream it would not be in a "streamline" shape and produce drag and lift.

For me the air running through the suspension is more or less useless for "designing" downforce. It has an effect, but it is very hard to work with it. So Merc has put the camera as high a possible by the rules, right in front of the front suspension, in order not to produce even more "dirty" air and to keep it as far away as possible from the front wing upwash.

So for me the mandatory cameras are just a problem, not a help. RedBull has completely solved this problem with their solution.

[tok-tokkie]

How is the hub (silver color) and the wheel spindle (brown) made?

I would say investment casting (lost wax casting) by the look of the surface finish. I have pretty good cnc experience & they certainly don't look like any cnc I have seen. I am a bit surprised if they are investment castings - particularly the spindle - as I would have thought castings would be too brittle; something more ductile with better strength in bending being required.

[Kiril Varbanov]

is this what u meant ?
http://imageshack.com/a/img849/3507/yent.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img580/7388/otpk.jpg

No the intercooler I'm talking about is your red arrow. Your green arrow points to the part of the bodywork that prevents the sidepods cooling air from expanding and going around the airbox IMO. It keeps that air low and help it keep its energy.
Your yellow arrow shows an interesting cooling channel for the electronics.

The green piece is a heatshield.

[atanatizante]

Could anyone post here an image with Vettel or Ricciardo`s car running into turn 1?
Coz I saw this morning they are using an insane rake on their cars now ...

[gandharva]

RBR is running insane rake since day one in Jerez. This has already been discussed several times. Seems they are pretty good in sealing the diffusor even without EBD.

[Blackout]

is this what u meant ?
http://imageshack.com/a/img849/3507/yent.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img580/7388/otpk.jpg

No the intercooler I'm talking about is your red arrow. Your green arrow points to the part of the bodywork that prevents the sidepods cooling air from expanding and going around the airbox IMO. It keeps that air low and help it keep its energy.
Your yellow arrow shows an interesting cooling channel for the electronics.

The green piece is a heatshield.

Hence it stops hot air, yes it's also a heatshield : P

[Blackout]

is this what u meant ?
http://imageshack.com/a/img849/3507/yent.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img580/7388/otpk.jpg

No the intercooler I'm talking about is your red arrow.

The positioning of this intercooler is only possible because of the clever exhaust routing. Seems the 6 exhaust pipes join as far back as possible and very low down.

Do you mean that silver thing just under the intercooler and its black duct is part of the exhausts? So the exhaust pipes are 'lying' on the floor ?

[gandharva]

Yes, that's what I think regarding the silver "thing". I think the silver material is an exhaust heatshield.
What black duct are you referring to?

[Blackout]

I just mean the big ducts that channel sidepod intake air to the heat exchangers ; )

[jagunx51]

No the intercooler I'm talking about is your red arrow.[/quote]
The positioning of this intercooler is only possible because of the clever exhaust routing. Seems the 6 exhaust pipes join as far back as possible and very low down.[/quote]

Do you mean that silver thing just under the intercooler and its black duct is part of the exhausts? So the exhaust pipes are 'lying' on the floor ?[/quote]

compare :

E22


(perhaps?) marussia

[atanatizante]