Question about F2003 Ferrari Shark Gills

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GianS
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Question about F2003 Ferrari Shark Gills

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HI there

I just wanted to know about the Shark Gills configuration that Ferrari used on the F2003.

They had different configurations of these as I am aware ie number of gills present or even no gills at all.

Did they however had different configs on the left and right side of the car ie two gills on this and one or more on the other depending on track?

I was looking at the Hotwheels 1/18 Ferrari 2003-GA and they have a few different configs of these gills as it seems that they have more on on side than the other on some of them.

Is this correct or just a horrible oversight?

Cheers
Gian

Irvingthien
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Interesting question.Thermodynamic related I presume?

Monstrobolaxa
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Well it has to due with the water/oil radiators....

on the left hand side (if I'm not mistaken) Ferrari only had water radiators and on the right hand side they had a oil and a water radiator, since oil has diferent cooling requirements then water the amout of air that passes through one side of the car is diferent from the other side....so the amout of air exiting one side is diferent from the other side.

As a curiosity the right hand side (where the oil radiator is) was 1,5 mm lower then the sidepod on the left hand side.

Notice - I am not sure about the left and or right hand side....I know that on one side they only had water and on the other oil and water, and I also know that the side with the oil radiator was 1,5 mm lower.

GianS
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Have a look here

http://www.thescuderia.net/Technical/Au ... ates.shtml


:) found the answer.

Might be of interest to you guys :)

Cheers
Gian

Reca
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The suggestion that direction of corners has something to do with the asymmetry of the gills makes no sense to me. Monstrobolaxa explanation was the right one.

Monstrobolaxa
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Well I agree with Reca.....imagine the IRL cars do they have bigger radiator exits on one side just because they only turn to the left????

At the same altitude theoretically air mass is the same (some times it varies slightly....but not in a way that you would have to make diferente air exits, a F1 car isn't so big that on one side you have one density of air and on the other another value, but it does happen due to diferences in temperature....but not in the radiator intakes)......so even if you turn left or right....the air that enters the radiators is the same.

Reca
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Monstrobolaxa wrote: imagine the IRL cars do they have bigger radiator exits on one side just because they only turn to the left????
The Dallara Ir3 for IRL has indeed big openings only on the left side... but that’s again because of the radiators positioning. Oil and water are in the left sidepod while on the right sidepod there’s only the small radiator for the gearbox oil. The choice is mainly related with mass distribution considerations but at the same time there’s also an aerodynamic motivation. While slipstreaming usually the following car keeps a line slightly more internal so the left side receives a more clean airflow (that’s also one of the reasons to have an higher angle of attach in the inner side of the front wing).

Monstrobolaxa
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Well....I didn't count that part...I was doing a hypothetical cooling system that was the same right and left....