Red Bull RB10 Renault

[Owen.C93]

I posted that in preseason somewhere, they just looked like vortex generators and not "tubes" in that shot.

[ncassi22]

I posted that in preseason somewhere, they just looked like vortex generators and not "tubes" in that shot.

Yeah they've been on the car a while. Wonder if each pair taper inwards or outwards and what effect this would have? My 'HIGHLY LAMEN NON SCIENTIFIC' reasoning says if each pair taper inwards they create small venturi's of faster moving air, but then also a pressure drop between each pair creating more downforce?

[Lycoming]

Hard to tell from the picture, but they wight actually be parallel, in which case I would expect them to be strakes or something, though they appear far too short for that. I would think that they're just vortex generators limilor to the kind they sell to fit on GA aircraft to get better takeoff performance. Interesting though, if that is indeed the case, I've never seen them in that location on an F1 car before.

[jagunx51]

" ...... And it is all the more impressive when you consider that Red Bull are also said to be working on a B-spec car ready for the European season ......"

http://en.espnf1.com/blogs/motorsport/story/149113.html

[mbchc]

The more other stripped cars I see, the more I wonder why Newey has packged that much cooling space. The radiator area is so much bigger than any other cars (even Renault powered Teams) are running. Do they really need that much cooling? Or is it to bump engine efficency and/or power?

http://i.imgur.com/zRX9LBY.jpg

Granted, there're changes made, however, It still a very tight packaging,
May I know what happened to Vettel's car?

[Matt Somers]

https://twitter.com/SomersF1/status/445135931461222402

[shelly]

https://twitter.com/SomersF1/status/445135931461222402

They seem to be Pearcey VVGs. Nice review in the intoduction part this thesis:
http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/di ... FULLTEXT02

[jagunx51]

The more other stripped cars I see, the more I wonder why Newey has packged that much cooling space. The radiator area is so much bigger than any other cars (even Renault powered Teams) are running. Do they really need that much cooling? Or is it to bump engine efficency and/or power?

http://i.imgur.com/zRX9LBY.jpg

still not sure how rb10 manage its exhaust
for comparison ...ct05



and E22

[gandharva]

still not sure how rb10 manage its exhaust
for comparison ...ct05

We already discussed this. But only suggestions until now...
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 76#p494276
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 56#p494356
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 57#p494357

[Steven]

All discussion related to Daniel Ricciardo's DSQ at Australia have been moved to the Australian GP thread.
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... &start=765

[bhall]

I think that the new slots in the rear are not for reducing drag, but to aid downforce of the rw.

They are placed below the wing profile - pressure is highr outside the endplates than inside in that zone

Rbr have had to fit the rw into the new legality box, so if the wing is aggressive the rear of it is steep, it needs slot bleeding from outside of rw not to stall. same as on the ouside of front wing endplate on most cars (for example f14t)

I think Scarbs is probably right on this one.


2014 (top), 2013

To minimize the loss of downforce caused by the new wing regulations, I think Red Bull have chosen to increase pressure over the wing through the omission of the usual slots featured in end plate designs seen up and down the grid. Such a slot-less layout softens the impact of the new restrictions, because it essentially exchanges pressure for pressure.

Be it from a comparatively large wing with slots, like before, or from a smaller wing without slots, like now, it's all the same, yanno?

At least, I think so...

The downside would be drag caused by strong tip vortices shed from a system no longer equipped with a mechanism to bleed high pressure from the top of the wing. Left alone, the increased pressure differential compared to air flow on the underside of the wing would likely cause very strong vorticity at the wing tips, and the car would then be penalized by the high drag such a condition tends to create. The new slots appear to be a means to combat that problem, but in a reversal of the way end plate slots are normally used.

Here, they actually increase local pressure under the wing at a point just prior to vortex formation in order to minimize the pressure differential when that stream combines with its high-pressure counterpart from above. This subsequently weakens the vortices formed as a result of that interaction.

The slots will cost a bit of downforce relative to the entirely slot-free end plates the team used throughout winter testing, but not by much, and the drag reduction will make it worthwhile. In the end, I think the wing will still provide a net gain in downforce compared to more conventional designs.

Or not. I dunno.

This could very well explain why Red Bull uses a monkey seat to help drive the diffuser instead of the rear wing. If they feel their rear wing is good enough on its own, they get the flexibility to augment something else instead. That's just a guess, though.

Thoughts?

Also diggin' the new dihedral-like front wing. I wonder how much wider it gets when it flexes.

[emmepi27]

Last but not least, they added this two fins (there weren't in the last test's days) (Ph Amus, edit @emmepi27)

[SectorOne]

Never seen winglet´s with a shape like that, ever.

[wesley123]

I'd expect it's function is quite similar to those large vanes 1993 F1 car's ran, it's shape certainly is similar

[emmepi27]

I think they would help this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlDnd3B1rhs