Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:Andres125sx wrote:I´m surprised on a forum like F1T I don´t read more comments about the noise level of the v8´s, more than 120dB... we´re not talking about some sound that some may find harmful and some not. V8 sound was objetively harmful not only for the people working into the box but also for the spectators, and not only if you get exposed for a long period, just some second of a noise level beyond 120dB will harm the hearing of an adult.... Do we talk about kids? But we defend that level of noise/sound....
I was reading your politically correct babble, I mean argument, and was expecting it to arrive at this point.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Use earplugs. Teams and spectators did it and this way it stops being harmful. They all did that, so all that "OMG, health first" thing goes down the drain. This kind of argument is like people who say petrol and chemicals are bad because if you eat them or rub them in your skin you may die/be harmed. WHO THE F*CK WILL DO THAT?
Yeah, watching a race without earplugs is comparable to eating petrol.... but the hypocrite is me....
Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:
Don't even get me started on people who chose to live near circuits and complain about noise. They are usually in the middle of nowhere and people know there is going to be noise there. Those rare circuits inside actual cities mostly have big walls for that reason
I wonder how many racing tracks have you seen.....
All of them have big walls, but that has never blocked the sound. And when you buy a house near a track, you can accept some level of noise, but when F1 arrives and that noise level is multiplied by a factor of 3-4....
What´s the reason for that noise level? None, nobody needs 140dB to enjoy racing... if earplugs reduce the sound you receive to 100dB, then they could be emitting 100dB directly and we all would enjoy the same sound without earplugs and without disturbing so much people
There´s no one single reason for that noise level, not even for noise freaks like yourself. You could be hearing the same sound without earplugs and everbody would be happy
Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:Andres125sx wrote:I was expecting this behaviour on most places, but not on a technical forum. The most techincal part of this discussion IMHO is the v8 were well beyond the safe limit for the spectators, but nobody even mention it, most people care about a subjective component more than about their own health
Precisely because it's a technical forum that you don't see the common place "OMG this is dangerous" argument here. It's racing, there is going to be noise and risk. There are special equipment and procedures REQUIRED to the activity because of it, like EARPLUGS
Precisely because it´s a technical forum I was thinking people would have a better understanding about what 140dB are, but you´re proving me wrong saying with earplugs everything is solved....
140dB is a complete atrocity, your hearing can be damaged even at a much lower noise level. I know people usually know nothing about sound and what dB means, but that is absurd. Ask your doctor next time you see him.
And yes, you can think what you want, but when I see something wich is harmful for an adult, then I instantly think about children. If an adult hearing will suffer, a child who is still growing will probably suffer some serious and permanent injury if he removes his earplugs at some point. Would you risk your son hearing assuming he will never remove his earplugs during the race? I know you hearing ignorant (sorry but it´s true, we all ignore more things that we know, and you´re an ignorant at this field) don´t understand what 140dB means, but you, being an adult, just need some seconds to suffer permanent injuries, so for a child who´s still growing this is a lot more critic, and he will probably remove his earplugs at some point if he´s not the most responsible child on planet earth.
Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:
Andres125sx wrote:Ok I agree I did prefer V8 sound too, but sound is sound, it´s circumstantial. I´m really surprised 33% of people who voted think they´ve take the soul away, to me the sound can never be so important on racing and I was naively thinking on F1T I´d find more people agreing with me
Surprised? Circumstantial? It's as much of an essential part of motorsport as tires being pushed to the limit, inches being disputed by multiple cars and breaking as fast as possible. We are motorsports fans here, and understand the importance of elements essentially related to racing. A race without sound is like watching soccer being blind. This is not chess. For soccer, you need to see it to feel it. Racing demands seeing and hearing. That's why the day regular motorsport is not done anymore, it will die. No Formula E will save it, it will be a curiosity at most. It will be as exciting as a typing competition, a sport that no one cares except those who do it
I'm actually happy F1T has most of its people REAL motorsports fans and people who didn't join the insanity train of politically correct/eco babble/too much health concern thinking. Do you know the ONLY completely non harmful way of racing? NONE. All that insanity leads people to support hypocritical things like "green and quiet racing" and eventually to support the banning of it
Can you say radical? Green and quiet or noise to the unsafe limit.... Do you know there are a lot of intermediate points?
GP2 is not green and quiet but it´s not harmfull either, as it is MotoGP, Nascar, Indy, WRC... and basically most motorsports
Nobody said motorsports or F1 must be green and quiet, but if they´re not harmfull for their spectators that would be nice I think
As I said, an atrocity. 
