Red Bull RB10 Renault

[munudeges]

When you look at the awkward camera horns on other cars I would argue this is about aerodynamic efficiency. The moved their previous camera positions inboard for efficiency until people started getting pictures they would rather no one saw.

[kalinka]

Did the director even used that camera for any footage during the weekend ? I can't remember any..

[WillerZ]

Did the director even used that camera for any footage during the weekend ? I can't remember any..

In the Sky coverage Ted said that Charlie Whiting said that FOM haven't got a camera which can be fitted in there.

[Matt Somers]

Did the director even used that camera for any footage during the weekend ? I can't remember any..

In the Sky coverage Ted said that Charlie Whiting said that FOM haven't got a camera which can be fitted in there.

I'm not sure that's correct, as I understand it the team can select to use just the camera and the housing is optional anyway....

20.3.1 Camera housings, when used, must be fitted in the same location as cameras. Details concerning the size and weight of all camera housings may be found in the Appendix to the Technical Regulations.

20.3.1 All cars must be equipped with five positions in which cameras or camera housings can be fitted. Referring to Drawing 6, all cars must carry (i) a camera in position 4 and (ii) a camera or camera housing in positions 2 (both sides), 3 and either 1 or 5.

I'd suggest RBR have camera's in positions 2 (only the forward facing camera, in the peephole can be seen) rather than carrying the additional weight of the housings as some have suggested

As for the rotating element/rearward facing camera, I'd suggest an agreement was struck between FOM and RBR anyway:

20.3.1 Any decision as to whether a camera or camera housing is fitted in those positions will be by agreement between the relevant Competitor and the Commercial Rights Holder

I covered the hidden camera here: http://somersf1.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/ ... idden.html

[SpecialCircumstances]

You'd think people would have figured out by now not to ask Charlie's opinion on technical matters

[shelly]

Last but not least, they added this two fins (there weren't in the last test's days) (Ph Amus, edit @emmepi27)

Found a similar shape here:
http://biosurvey.ou.edu/oas/96/T96/Jdavis.htm



tested in comparison with other wing tip shape, it is said to increase the load on the wing due to intelligent use of the tip vortex.

[Chuckjr]

My appologies Shelly if this is a dumb question. I'm not an aerodynamic expert so this may be pathetically elementary but here goes...

Do you mean by the phrase "intelligent use of the vortex" that the curl there on the wing tip curves with the wing tip vortex - using a coanda like surface effect to hold that tip vortex to the wing curl surface (better flow attachment)? Therefore with that coanda effect bringing the vortex back around the tip to press that air onto the wing for downforce, or, to simply flow with the vortex coming off the tip to further reduce turbulence post wing.

Sorry if I've been unclear. I want to learn and understand better what is happening with these wings.

Thank you.

[Robbobnob]

What the curl is achieving is increasing the affective area of the wing by moving the interface between the high and low pressure surfaces as far away from the wing tip as possible, in this case, rolling it back into the high pressure region.

This will help maintain flow over the majority of the wing surface, creating more downforce. They are trying to put more through the hub driectly into the wheels, similar to what they did in the past seasons with the rear hub.

[tok-tokkie]

^^^^
I don't see how increasing the downforce on that winglet will alter the airflow through the hub. The scoop inlet above & in front of those winglets is where the air is taken into the hub.

[boyracer94]

^^^^
I don't see how increasing the downforce on that winglet will alter the airflow through the hub. The scoop inlet above & in front of those winglets is where the air is taken into the hub.

I think this is how it was meant to be read, rather than altering the airflow through the hub:

... This will help maintain flow over the majority of the wing surface, creating more downforce. They are trying to put more [downforce] through the hub driectly into the wheels, similar to what they did in the past seasons with the rear hub.

[tok-tokkie]

Yes now it makes sense to me. Thanks.

[shelly]

@chuckjr: I was referring to what the aothors of the link state in the article. It is the first tiem I see this type of tip; I have not been able to fine some more info on it (yet)

[Chuckjr]

What the curl is achieving is increasing the affective area of the wing by moving the interface between the high and low pressure surfaces as far away from the wing tip as possible, in this case, rolling it back into the high pressure region.

This will help maintain flow over the majority of the wing surface, creating more downforce. They are trying to put more through the hub driectly into the wheels, similar to what they did in the past seasons with the rear hub.

Got it. Brilliant. Thank you for the explanation.

[Hail22]

Malaysian Grand Prix 26/03/14

[gray41]

Is that new, with bigger exits both central and outer?