ARB design

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avinash
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ARB design

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What should be the target roll gradient for bus rear axle suspension ?

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Tim.Wright
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1deg/g should be sweet mate.
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Surely you want -1. Get everyone to lean in on the corners.

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Greg Locock
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That's a superb shot. It may even answer the question.

Having said that I doubt that it is even a consideration in bus design.

OP are you trying to design a real commercial bus or something else?

Just_a_fan
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Greg Locock wrote:
Having said that I doubt that it is even a consideration in bus design.
They certainly used to test roll angles for London buses "back in the day":
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http://www.britishpathe.com/video/bus-tilt-tests
yes, I know there are chains and ropes in various places but it is a great snap shot of yester-year...
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Lycoming
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In that pic, they aren't testing body roll angle, they're measuring tip-over angle. That's not the same as the roll angle of the sprung mass. One is related to the roll gradient, the other is not.

Greg Locock
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Actually that's rather nice, they are measuring both body on chassis roll and the total tilt angle there.

But I agree that the purpose of that measurement is not primarily to do with roll gradient.

dynatune
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This testing procedure is far from "old". Each self respecting proving ground has one of those .....

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