The penalty for unsafe release is 10 second and 10 places, so it's more like a fine plus a suspended license for speedingdjos wrote:Can someone please explain to me how the FIA can legally penalize someone twice for the same incident?
Fan took his 10sec penalty in the race so how can they legally give him a 10 place grid penalty for the next race?
That would be like being fined twice for the same parking infringement which would be thrown out by any western court in 5 seconds flat!
yesBlackout wrote:Where are the ''intermediate 1'' and 2 located ? http://184.106.145.74/f1-championship/f ... ds_V01.pdf
At the end of sector 1 and S2 ?
Yes. A guy with a "leaf blower" came out to cool the brakes as the car was being wheeled back into its pit box. He wasn't wearing any safety gear.gray41 wrote:Didn't something happen with a mechanic in the pit lane without all the correct gear on too?
on a straightlangwadt wrote:
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20.4 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.
For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a 'significant portion'.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSb0TSjfnE
Kimi turned and drove over Kevins front wing so he must have been along side. Kimi didn't look in his mirrors, Kevin expected Kimi to know he was there, they were both wrong, it was just racing.
I think Kevin mostly took the blame for costing the team points by making a too risky move very early in a long race
Considering that wayward wheels have both injured and killed people within the last few years, something pretty significant needed to be done as a deterrant.djos wrote:It still seems a grossly excessive punishment - fair enuf if the unsafe release involved a collision with another car in put lane but for a loose wheel nut!!!
His race is already ruined, wrecking his next race is just cruel (regardless of the driver involved).
Fully understood however I think the punishment needs to fit the crime - redbull realized their error and brought Dan to a safe halt in pit lane.Tim.Wright wrote:Considering that wayward wheels have both injured and killed people within the last few years, something pretty significant needed to be done as a deterrant.djos wrote:It still seems a grossly excessive punishment - fair enuf if the unsafe release involved a collision with another car in put lane but for a loose wheel nut!!!
His race is already ruined, wrecking his next race is just cruel (regardless of the driver involved).
I think the punishment does fit the crime. We've had years of very minor punishments for this offence, and teams have not adjusted their behaviour. The punishment needs to get stricter until they do.djos wrote:Fully understood however I think the punishment needs to fit the crime - redbull realized their error and brought Dan to a safe halt in pit lane.Tim.Wright wrote:Considering that wayward wheels have both injured and killed people within the last few years, something pretty significant needed to be done as a deterrant.djos wrote:It still seems a grossly excessive punishment - fair enuf if the unsafe release involved a collision with another car in put lane but for a loose wheel nut!!!
His race is already ruined, wrecking his next race is just cruel (regardless of the driver involved).
I agree with you on the previously minor penalties, I just hope that a DR style incident doesnt cost us a great championship battle at the end of the season.beelsebob wrote: I think the punishment does fit the crime. We've had years of very minor punishments for this offence, and teams have not adjusted their behaviour. The punishment needs to get stricter until they do.
I hate the fact that they punish a driver for a team mistake, it's just fundamentally unfair, they should just dock the team constructor points and leave the driver out of it.djos wrote:Can someone please explain to me how the FIA can legally penalize someone twice for the same incident?
Dan took his 10sec penalty in the race so how can they legally give him a 10 place grid penalty for the next race?
That would be like being fined twice for the same parking infringement which would be thrown out by any western court in 5 seconds flat!