Team: Adrian Newey (CTO), Rob Marshall (CD), Peter Prodromou (HA), Christian Horner (TP)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (1), Daniel Ricciardo (3), Sébastian Buemi (Reserve), António Félix Da Costa (Reserve)
Team name: Infiniti Red Bull Racing
Vettels car was defective!zztopless wrote:Any thoughts on the speed trap difference between Vettel and Ricciardo in qualifying?
Ricciardo: 320.3 km/h
Vettel: 314.7 km/h
Source
Gear ratios, wing levels or a combination of both? I suspect lower wing/downforce anticipating Ricciardo needing to overtake quite a bit with his penalty (they've done this in the recent past with both Vettel and Webber when they've had to start further down).
jagunx51 wrote:http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 55#p501655scuderia rob wrote:Blackout wrote:Wastegate pipe is visible know while it was hidden in Melbourne and Sepang
Renault brought some updates to the turbo exhaut and oil system and to the Kers...
http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Red ... 769719.jpg
where is the wastegate pipe?
Perhaps, but his top speed has been around the 314 mark for every session, as was Dan's up until Qualifying.gilgen wrote:Vettels car was defective!zztopless wrote:Any thoughts on the speed trap difference between Vettel and Ricciardo in qualifying?
Ricciardo: 320.3 km/h
Vettel: 314.7 km/h
Source
Gear ratios, wing levels or a combination of both? I suspect lower wing/downforce anticipating Ricciardo needing to overtake quite a bit with his penalty (they've done this in the recent past with both Vettel and Webber when they've had to start further down).
And weren't the wastegates only for safety reasons, given that the MGU-H heatsinks take the role in these engines? I'm sure Remy Taffin said that. So have Renault been allowed to use the wastegate normally for reliability reasons?“On my final run we had some issued with the downshifts, which upset the balance,” he said. “It was the only shot I had in Q2. It was quite close. Good for Kimi who was 10th, and bad for me who was 11th at that stage. Couple of reasons why – I think at the end I wasn’t able to extract 100% out of the car.
“For some reason from one to the other, from the final run in Q1 to Q2 something went wrong and we couldn’t fix it in time, so I had to do the lap compromised. How much it affected the lap is difficult to measure, but surely it was no help the car behaviour wasn’t the way I wanted it or the way I expected it. But I’m not a fan of blaming something in particular. For sure that didn’t help, without it probably yes, I would have made it to Q3, but still it was not the session that we wanted to have this evening.”
Downshifts were a mess. I spotted it even before we got vettel's radio confirmation. car was bouncing all over the place when he downshifted and Vettel's head was snapping back and forth. Clearly something was wrong.Gridlock wrote:Given that the downshifts didn't look rough or rejected or delayed, I read this and all I could think of was "EBD effect" - obviously we're not talking a sealed diffuser but I struggle to join up the 'invisible downshift problem' with 'unexpected car handling'?? Is he just talking about harvesting/balance?
I think that was their original intention, but after the first week of testing they discovered that they actually needed the wastegate for boost control as they couldn't dump all the heat out into the car.Gridlock wrote:And weren't the wastegates only for safety reasons, given that the MGU-H heatsinks take the role in these engines? I'm sure Remy Taffin said that. So have Renault been allowed to use the wastegate normally for reliability reasons?
He had an mgu-h malfunction.nacho wrote:Did anyone else notice that Vettel's car was scraping the ground a lot more than Ricciardo's, maybe that's why he was slow ln straight?
They also appeared on the car in MalaysiaCrucial_Xtreme wrote:Very interesting brake duct appendages in Bahrain this weekend, the scroll type shape similar to what they did with their diffuser last year.
http://www.omnicorse.it/img/articoli/ev ... eriore.jpg
They set Ricciardo's car up for less drag to help him fight his way through traffic because they new at best he was going to be P11 after his grid penalty. They have done this in the past when they have had a grid penalty to serve.zztopless wrote:Perhaps, but his top speed has been around the 314 mark for every session, as was Dan's up until Qualifying.gilgen wrote:Vettels car was defective!zztopless wrote:Any thoughts on the speed trap difference between Vettel and Ricciardo in qualifying?
Ricciardo: 320.3 km/h
Vettel: 314.7 km/h
Source
Gear ratios, wing levels or a combination of both? I suspect lower wing/downforce anticipating Ricciardo needing to overtake quite a bit with his penalty (they've done this in the recent past with both Vettel and Webber when they've had to start further down).
+1 Thanks mate, wasn't aware they were used in Malaysia.Robbobnob wrote:
They also appeared on the car in Malaysia
Yep. his car was doubly nobbled! Presumably as the mgu-h was not operating, then the turbo was not spooling up enough, leading to a bit of turbo lag. If so, Vettel did well to overcome this.Juzh wrote:He had an mgu-h malfunction.nacho wrote:Did anyone else notice that Vettel's car was scraping the ground a lot more than Ricciardo's, maybe that's why he was slow ln straight?
