McLaren have finally announced their new driver line-up for 2015 as it embarks on a new era with Honda power. While Fernando Alonso joins from Ferrari, Jenson Button is retained as a racing racing. Kevin Magnussen will stay at the team as test and reserve driver.
This may be the team thread, but do try to keep at least the rampant fannishness out of it.McG wrote:Really worried about McLaren now. Didn't make it into Q3 in China in the wet, they really should be making the best of the wet conditions. Unless they are set up more for a dry race.
Stupidly thought McLaren could make better F1 car than Mercedes. Anyone got anything uplifting to say? I'm feeling very pessimistic.
Use real words.beelsebob wrote:This may be the team thread, but do try to keep at least the rampant fannishness out of it.McG wrote:Really worried about McLaren now. Didn't make it into Q3 in China in the wet, they really should be making the best of the wet conditions. Unless they are set up more for a dry race.
Stupidly thought McLaren could make better F1 car than Mercedes. Anyone got anything uplifting to say? I'm feeling very pessimistic.
Unfortunatelly they will strugle painfully next year because Honda will have a year behind with the engine. Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault have 2-3 teams to test the engine this year and make performance improvements for next year. Honda make it clear that they will rely only on the dyno and won't make real testing. Only by 2016-2017 Mclaren will have a real chanceXero wrote:I think the wet just exposes McLarens main weakness in lack of overall downforce, although todays problems suggest the front end has poor mechanical grip too, usually one of McLaren's strong points. I'd put that down to setup though. McLaren's race pace in the dry has generally been decent, so as a fan I'm optimistic for the season going forward. The fact the wind tunnel and simulator correlates to the track this year suggests they have a good possibility of developing faster and harder than the other teams, which they've proven to be capable of over recent years. As a fan, I'm viewing this year as a development year for McLaren, hopefully with a win or two towards the end of the season, in preparing the overall package with Honda for next season.
Agreedmclaren_mircea wrote: Unfortunatelly they will strugle painfully next year because Honda will have a year behind with the engine. Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault have 2-3 teams to test the engine this year and make performance improvements for next year. Honda make it clear that they will rely only on the dyno and won't make real testing. Only by 2016-2017 Mclaren will have a real chance
Nobody?mclaren_mircea wrote:PLEASE someone who sees my post about Ettore Griffini and knows something about this man inform us, the other Mclaren fans. I can't find anything on the internet about what type of engineer he is. Maybe some Lotus fans can help us.
Complete opposite. It's perfect for them to observe the situation, get info from McLaren and prepare for the next season. They will be very strong.mclaren_mircea wrote:Unfortunatelly they will strugle painfully next year because Honda will have a year behind with the engine. Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault have 2-3 teams to test the engine this year and make performance improvements for next year. Honda make it clear that they will rely only on the dyno and won't make real testing. Only by 2016-2017 Mclaren will have a real chance
They said that the can't and they won't. They will rely on on the dyno and huge amounts of money. I'm also skeptical about Mclaren beeing so ruthlees even if I would love it. They gave Mercedes all kinds of contractual assurances, and Mercedes is hiddening from them info for the engine. Sadly, Mclaren will be again losers next year. It's a Whitmarsh era blockage, this apetite for losers situation. I will never forgive him and his style for the operational management and errors of 2012. Look at Mercedes, they are doing everything all right. He was set up for throwing Mclaren in a decline. Ron will need years to revigorate the team.heidenreich27 wrote:Well honda can meet a circuit and test their engine 24hours non stop because they are not in formula 1 contract. They have huge advantage and other teams already informed bernie but fia and bernie cant do anything.
They at least say they won't: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108796heidenreich27 wrote:Well honda can meet a circuit and test their engine 24hours non stop because they are not in formula 1 contract. They have huge advantage and other teams already informed bernie but fia and bernie cant do anything.
