aha ok but i meant the upper wishbonethepowerofnone wrote:I don't believe there is any regulations on where it is placed, as such a rule would restrict push/pull rod suspension choice. The desired location is as low as possible, however due to geometric constraints it will likely place above the lower wishbone as in the photograph.
In his defence the thread starter primarily speaks French, so technical vocabulary is always going to be difficult. Your statements about the tub pickups are however valid, and knowing why firasf1dream is asking the questions he is, I suspect you answered his next question before he had to ask it.marcush. wrote:As Claude rouelle would have said:
This may not have been the question but this is my answer
the thread starter took the word wheelbase -which discribes the distance of front to rear axle- instead of using correct terminology -the wheel is attached to the hub (if there is a hub) and the hub is turning within the upright if you happen to speak about indipendant suspension .
I might be nitpicky but if you really want to go any deep into the subject you should at least try not to confuse people with your very own ways of naming the bits and pieces .
I have heard people talking about steering arms when actually it was the tierod they were pointing at...so how can we discuss when everyone is calling things just as it pleases him . It seems rather impossible..Therfore I chose the alternate possibility to understand the post and answered accordingly.
@thepowerofnone you're the best manthepowerofnone wrote:In his defence the thread starter primarily speaks French, so technical vocabulary is always going to be difficult. Your statements about the tub pickups are however valid, and knowing why firasf1dream is asking the questions he is, I suspect you answered his next question before he had to ask it.marcush. wrote:As Claude rouelle would have said:
This may not have been the question but this is my answer
the thread starter took the word wheelbase -which discribes the distance of front to rear axle- instead of using correct terminology -the wheel is attached to the hub (if there is a hub) and the hub is turning within the upright if you happen to speak about indipendant suspension .
I might be nitpicky but if you really want to go any deep into the subject you should at least try not to confuse people with your very own ways of naming the bits and pieces .
I have heard people talking about steering arms when actually it was the tierod they were pointing at...so how can we discuss when everyone is calling things just as it pleases him . It seems rather impossible..Therfore I chose the alternate possibility to understand the post and answered accordingly.
you got it all i want to know both the tub and hub exact position of the fixing is there is any exact positions for that, the regulations are general and doesn't go into detail because i guess the details are the challenge for engineers, what regulation does is put limitsthanks a lot this is really cool and yes i am interested how can i have a copy of this book ?thepowerofnone wrote:Sorry, I never mentioned an angle between the push/pull rod and the tub/upright. It is not necessarily 30 degrees, although that will probably be close.
Your wishbones all look pretty accurate. Maybe a few degrees out but nothing significant.
That sketch that Jersey Tom posted is pretty close to what the push/pull rod will look like. I will PM you a link to a .pdf scan of some appropriate sketches of the MP4-27, from Giorgio Piola's Formula 1 Technical Analysis 2012/13 book - I'm giving you all I'm happy to give you given the copyright on the book. Its an outstanding series of books, if you're serious about your models I recommend you buy yourself a copy, the drawings are unrivalled and the original is in Italian. I know that you speak French but if you live in the correct part of France you might speak some Italian too, if so you will find it a lot easier to understand. I doubt it comes in a French version but you might be lucky.
It's available for sale in a bunch of places.firasf1dream wrote:thanks a lot this is really cool and yes i am interested how can i have a copy of this book ?
