2014 Monaco Grand Prix

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NathanOlder wrote:Heres what i dont understand,

last year in spain, Merc Dominated the last sector. Ferrari were faster than Merc in sector 1 & 2 but Merc wer 6 tenths quicker in sector 3. (the slow , mechanical grip part of the lap.) They went to Monaco and were quicker in Qualy and won the race due to the nature of the track (no overtaking)

Go forward 1 year, and Daniel Ricciardo matched the pole lap in sector 3. (i know Rosberg went a little faster, but still Ricciardo matched Lewis' pole lap)

Sector 3 is more like monaco than sector 1 & 2 by a country mile, so surely by looking at this, its clear to see the Merc will be the best in Monaco, but not by much from Red Bull.

I also dont understand why people say the Red Bull is the best in high speed corners, this has NOT been backed up at any point this season in the timings. The Red Bull has been a lot closer in the slower corners, not the faster ones. In Spain, sector 1 in Qualy, Ricciardo & Vettel were over half a second down on Hamilton. And sector 1 is all about 3 fast turns, along with high speed on the straight. As far as I knew, Red Bull were losing out more on acceleration, and thats not alot in sector 1. So its just 3 high speed turns, where they were losing over 0.500! Huge.
I don't think you can look it that way. Yes, sector 3 is more like Monaco, but they don't put a Monaco setup in Barcelona, just to win time in sector 3. Other sectors will then be compromised. Perhaps Mercedes were running with far less downforce needed compared to RB. Maybe RB were thinking "Well, we are losing time on the straights anyway, why not be stronger in the infield?". So therefor they maybe used a higher downforce setup compared to Mercedes and that could be the reason that RB seems fairly strong in sector 3. Now put more downforce on that Mercedes and surely sector 3 times would look far different. Who knows?

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Or Ric just nailed the 3rd sector. We won't know until qualifying where people stand. I'm just hoping it doesn't rain for qualifying but does rain for the race.
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Let's hope a good race!

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I think Ricciardo was good all weekend in sector 3.
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https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/stat ... 2401457153 Apparently there was a problem with Button's engine.

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Cue F1 is too slow cries :cry:

BTW Whatever happened to sensor problems? From the most dramatic thing to a non-story in a week. It's a miracle how some issues in F1 disappear after serving their purpose. Speaking of RB how on earth did they get away with crappy camera for five races? Five races instead of change request after first test day, special treatment for Eccelstone's friends.

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iotar__ wrote:Cue F1 is too slow cries :cry:

BTW Whatever happened to sensor problems? From the most dramatic thing to a non-story in a week.
I think Ferrari used their power to vito that rule, they didn't like it.

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How are the lap times looking?

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Hamilton 1:18:2 Rosberg less than a tenth slower, Ricciardo 2 tenths off, Vettel 8 tenths off.

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Dan doing a great job, looks super comfortable with the car and track!
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mikeerfol wrote:Hamilton 1:18:2 Rosberg less than a tenth slower, Ricciardo 2 tenths off, Vettel 8 tenths off.
Alonso 6 tenths off.

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Great work from Ricciardo, hopefully that is pure pace rather than Vettel backing off. Early days, but it does appear slightly closer among the top.

Rosberg looks very very comfortable around Monaco, and virtually on pace. He may have a few aces up his sleave for this weekend.

Rosberg win, Hamilton Second, Ricciardo third for the race - with HAmilton on Pole.........

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P1 times for those interested:

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 Driver                   Team                     Time                Laps
 1. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes                 1m18.271s           32
 2. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes                 1m18.303s  +0.032s  31
 3. Daniel Ricciardo      Red Bull-Renault         1m18.506s  +0.235s  37
 4. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                  1m18.930s  +0.659s  31
 5. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault         1m19.043s  +0.772s  33
 6. Kimi Raikkonen        Ferrari                  1m19.467s  +1.196s  31
 7. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes        1m19.494s  +1.223s  31
 8. Sergio Perez          Force India-Mercedes     1m19.666s  +1.395s  29
 9. Kevin Magnussen       McLaren-Mercedes         1m19.789s  +1.518s  29
10. Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes     1m19.856s  +1.585s  38
11. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes         1m20.033s  +1.762s  35
12. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari           1m20.118s  +1.847s  33
13. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault            1m20.207s  +1.936s  33
14. Pastor Maldonado      Lotus-Renault            1m20.241s  +1.970s  38
15. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Renault       1m20.260s  +1.989s  36
16. Felipe Massa          Williams-Mercedes        1m20.517s  +2.246s  25
17. Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari           1m20.736s  +2.465s  18
18. Daniil Kvyat          Toro Rosso-Renault       1m20.914s  +2.643s  37
19. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari         1m21.310s  +3.039s  27
20. Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault         1m22.063s  +3.792s  40
21. Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault         1m22.492s  +4.221s  38
22. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari         1m25.817s  +7.546s   7
Cheers Phil
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Phil wrote:P1 times for those interested:

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 Driver                   Team                     Time                Laps
 1. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes                 1m18.271s           32
 2. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes                 1m18.303s  +0.032s  31
 3. Daniel Ricciardo      Red Bull-Renault         1m18.506s  +0.235s  37
 4. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                  1m18.930s  +0.659s  31
 5. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault         1m19.043s  +0.772s  33
 6. Kimi Raikkonen        Ferrari                  1m19.467s  +1.196s  31
 7. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes        1m19.494s  +1.223s  31
 8. Sergio Perez          Force India-Mercedes     1m19.666s  +1.395s  29
 9. Kevin Magnussen       McLaren-Mercedes         1m19.789s  +1.518s  29
10. Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes     1m19.856s  +1.585s  38
11. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes         1m20.033s  +1.762s  35
12. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari           1m20.118s  +1.847s  33
13. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault            1m20.207s  +1.936s  33
14. Pastor Maldonado      Lotus-Renault            1m20.241s  +1.970s  38
15. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Renault       1m20.260s  +1.989s  36
16. Felipe Massa          Williams-Mercedes        1m20.517s  +2.246s  25
17. Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari           1m20.736s  +2.465s  18
18. Daniil Kvyat          Toro Rosso-Renault       1m20.914s  +2.643s  37
19. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari         1m21.310s  +3.039s  27
20. Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault         1m22.063s  +3.792s  40
21. Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault         1m22.492s  +4.221s  38
22. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari         1m25.817s  +7.546s   7
Cheers Phil
Probably gets asked all the time, but anywhere where we can see the splits from all laps?