Triplex Suspension

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SiLo
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Triplex Suspension

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbgjRBT4ltM

is this something that Formula one teams can integrate? I know literally nothing about suspension so please feel free to explain if they can/cannot. It sounds like it has a lot of advantages over a standard sprung system.
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Tim.Wright
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Looks like a normal 3rd spring/damper setup to me. Standard issue on current high downforce race cars. Not sure why they have given it a fancy name
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mep
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Looks like a simple heave damper to me, with the downside that by this arrangement the modes are not completely decoupled.
F1 is already ahead of something like this.

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Powerslide
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I think Triplex translate to a flexing third spring, the triple flex rather than double. This would also mean that its intent focus would be to tame high torque squat. Squat especially with really wide tyres would take away a lot of grip so the Triplex system minimizes squat. Since it is mounted on such a high powered car this can play a huge factor because high powered cars tend to squat a lot.

It also bring stability to the front end at high speeds when the rear has a lot of downforce. Koenigsegg tend to style the rear bonnet and window section in such a way it created unwanted vacuum and lift as seen on Top gear when Stig lost it at high speed. So Koenigsegg adopted a rear wing for downforce but since his cars are well over 200mp/h, keeping the rear from squatting by that wing so the front won't point upwards and create undertray lift becomes necessary and Triplex fit into this perfectly without having a suspension that is too hard.
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SiLo
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I don't really know enough about F1 suspensions to comment. Does anyone know a bit more so that they can explain how they are more advanced than this?

I know they are now running interconnected systems, but taking the rear and front as separate entities might make this a bit easier to comprehend for me.
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SiLo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbgjRBT4ltM

is this something that Formula one teams can integrate? I know literally nothing about suspension so please feel free to explain if they can/cannot. It sounds like it has a lot of advantages over a standard sprung system.
It sounds like that because it's a marketing video trying to tell you on their cars.

Really pretty basic. It's a ride damper. Nothing fancy about it. Could very well be there just to try to handle wheel hop - just my speculation. Seems odd to go add another component to the car when you could do other things. But hey, maybe it was the easiest or most practical solution, hard to know without knowing where they were at in design.

Any sort of video like this though you have to take with a grain of salt. They can take a crutch / bandaid for a problem and try to spin it into some fancy marketing thing. The fact that they "brand" it as 'Triplex' I think speaks to that.
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At the bottom of this page is a nice drawing and a multiubody simulation of a Loal 3rd spring arrangement.

http://greglocock.webs.com/