Mercedes AMG F1 W05

[WaikeCU]

Hope that kerb riding doesn't cause the front wing to break. Remember their newer front wing, failed a couple times during crashtest before given the greenlight. The whole front wing looks so fragile it's going to fall off at anytime.

[Glyn]

Hope that kerb riding doesn't cause the front wing to break. Remember their newer front wing, failed a couple times during crashtest before given the greenlight. The whole front wing looks so fragile it's going to fall off at anytime.

Is this the exact same front wing...that passed the crash test... with the flexing mechanics?

Is this movement one of the core reasons why it failed so many times.

[beelsebob]

Hope that kerb riding doesn't cause the front wing to break. Remember their newer front wing, failed a couple times during crashtest before given the greenlight. The whole front wing looks so fragile it's going to fall off at anytime.

Is this the exact same front wing...that passed the crash test... with the flexing mechanics?

Is this movement one of the core reasons why it failed so many times.

No. The reason it failed the crash test was because the wing is not part of the nose at all according to the FIA.

There are limits to deceleration in the first 15cm, and then next 10cm of the nose. Merc thought that meant that the first 15cm would be mostly the neutral section of wing. The FIA said "no, that begins at the nose tip". The result was that Merc failed the first crash test because they designed to the wrong standard, and then failed a few more because the deceleration specs are extremely hard to meet in the length of their nose.

The wing is completely independent of the crash tests.

[thomin]

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change to the T cam.

Seems like there are 2 GoPro cams in there

3D on-board footage?

very cool, I'm looking forward to the result...though it would be even cooler if they mounted the camera close to the ground, like right in the center of the front wing or maybe on the nose...though since that very much upsets the aerodynamics that's probably nothing one would do at a real race weekend where you want as much relevant information as possible, but rather at one of their filming days.

[Pierce89]

Isn't this end plate flex thing around for some time now? I remember seeing it on the ferrari (?) last year quite frequently.

Yup, but now its the W05, so that makes it special.

[thomin]

I made a small gif of the video:

http://i.imgur.com/zGqj2m3.gif

Mass Damper

Rubbish. It lacks the mass (Weight) for it to be functional as as damper.

Do we know how much a front wing weighs? I mean even if it's not a mass damper, it would sound very reasonable to turn it into one, no? So why not put some weights on there?

[beelsebob]

Do we know how much a front wing weighs? I mean even if it's not a mass damper, it would sound very reasonable to turn it into one, no? So why not put some weights on there?

In fact, we even saw last race, Mercedes changed chunks of the ends of their wing to be made out of metal, instead of CF. They would only do that if they were trying to ballast the ends of the wing.

[Emerson.F]

Dont they shift ballast in the frontwing depending on the particular track requirments? If so it doesn't seems logical to design a mass dampering front wing if it only suits some tracks.

[SiLo]

Would a mass damper be useful in that position? I know that last time we really saw them they were almost within the front suspension pickup points on the chassis. Would it help being that far forward? I suppose it would in some ways, but would it have a detrimental effect on the rear?

[wesley123]

Do we know how much a front wing weighs? I mean even if it's not a mass damper, it would sound very reasonable to turn it into one, no? So why not put some weights on there?

In fact, we even saw last race, Mercedes changed chunks of the ends of their wing to be made out of metal, instead of CF. They would only do that if they were trying to ballast the ends of the wing.

Or to prevent damage to the wing. Audi did so on their R15+ and R18 as the carbon would get damaged over the course of the race and performance would deteriorate.

With the ends skidding curbs or the asphalt, we could imagine the same thing going on here.

[bhall]

Indeed. it's easy to damage a flexy wing.

[aral]

i know that we are way off topic again. but...have a look at the video clip again. watch how the slots between the elements change . this seems to indicate that when under load in a straight line, the slots are closing and so reducing drag. would this not be considered movable aero parts? a bit similar to flexible body work that is banned.

[wesley123]

We have been discussing this through and through in the past few years.

Yes, flexing is illegal, the rules say that parts cannot flex(which is impossible) but it also has limits on the amount of flex in contradiction. They obviously passed those flex tests, so arguably, they are legal.

[RicerDude]

Not sure its been mentioned yet but the vertical strakes in front of the tyre are now integrated into the floor (they used to be bolted in place).

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