He wasn't. He was up on his best S1 time, but not rosbergs.The_Truth wrote:Hi guys, I was wondering if you guys can help me to find some data from the qualifying on Monaco.
What I need is the overall best sector times from the qualifying. Lewis said he was tow tenths faster on the first sector during his final lap before the yellow flags, but the problem is that I cant find any information about it on the F1 website.
Does any one know where I can get it? Thanks.
Tbh I'd forgotten about that episode.Cam wrote:Well, Alonso has done some pretty dishonest stuff. Did you overlook that or simply not know? FYI, he escaped sanction by turning dibber dobber and selling everyone out.djos wrote:I'll stick with the honest and upfront guys like Fernando...Funny how words such as 'great' and 'best' are used to describe a sports person sometimes."The e-mails show unequivocally that both Alonso and de la Rosa received confidential Ferrari information," FIA said in a 15-page explanation of the World Motor Sport Council's decision to fine McLaren a record US$100 million and expelled it from this year's constructors' championship.
"Both drivers knew that this information was confidential Ferrari information," it said.
Show me where Mark has been less than honest and upfront with folks?Juzh wrote:Am I reading this right? Mark?? Alonsodjos wrote:I'll stick with the honest and upfront guys like Fernando, Daniel and formerly Mark .... Heck even Kimi!Traction wrote: ..but don't forget the lying..
Monaco often brings out the worst in Hamilton probably because it's such a frustrating track, I expect things to get better from now on.SGeorge wrote:Rosberg, whether intentional or not, has shown up yet again a major weak point in Hamilton's game. There is an almost "pre-set" reaction that the team is against him - Not the qualy incident (be that on purpose or not) but with Hamilton almost deperate pleas via his radio messages - he is saying he doesnt think the team back him, and openly questioning strategists on game plan. If he doesnt feel comfortable with the team, and they end up having a titanic battle all year, I can see there being internal fireworks that Rosberg will benefit from.
No question Hamilton is a gifted driver, one that is the fastest on his day - but this petulance is not making him endearing, and maybe his downfall in the long run!
Fully expect a Hamilton victory next time out in Canada, but he cannot allow his head to be clouded with anger and suspicion as it has done before. He seems to be a driver that needs harmonious atmosphere but seems unwilling to work to create it.
In general demenour though, he has often shown himself to be culpable to outbursts - this isnt new. Button came out today and said if they had a disagreement, he would often destroy him the next race. WIll no doubt be back to normal next race, but I think he has shown some easily exploitable weakness. Ham is the fastest driver, he has an amazing talent to drive fast - he is realistically, the fastest. But for all that ability there is an inherant frailty to his mental state during a race, we see it quite often in questioning team calls on radio - this comes across as Trust as much as anything. Rosberg may be able to exploit this in future races to his advantage. Button was, over 3 seasons, the higher performer in points scoring. Hamilton maybe fast but he really needs to sort his head to deliver over the course of what will be a fraught season.Anon123 wrote:Monaco often brings out the worst in Hamilton probably because it's such a frustrating track, I expect things to get better from now on.SGeorge wrote:Rosberg, whether intentional or not, has shown up yet again a major weak point in Hamilton's game. There is an almost "pre-set" reaction that the team is against him - Not the qualy incident (be that on purpose or not) but with Hamilton almost deperate pleas via his radio messages - he is saying he doesnt think the team back him, and openly questioning strategists on game plan. If he doesnt feel comfortable with the team, and they end up having a titanic battle all year, I can see there being internal fireworks that Rosberg will benefit from.
No question Hamilton is a gifted driver, one that is the fastest on his day - but this petulance is not making him endearing, and maybe his downfall in the long run!
Fully expect a Hamilton victory next time out in Canada, but he cannot allow his head to be clouded with anger and suspicion as it has done before. He seems to be a driver that needs harmonious atmosphere but seems unwilling to work to create it.
Comparing points scored over 3 seasons is one of the most ridiculous things as the relative performance of the cars change each season and indeed throughout each season.SGeorge wrote:In general demenour though, he has often shown himself to be culpable to outbursts - this isnt new. Button came out today and said if they had a disagreement, he would often destroy him the next race. WIll no doubt be back to normal next race, but I think he has shown some easily exploitable weakness. Ham is the fastest driver, he has an amazing talent to drive fast - he is realistically, the fastest. But for all that ability there is an inherant frailty to his mental state during a race, we see it quite often in questioning team calls on radio - this comes across as Trust as much as anything. Rosberg may be able to exploit this in future races to his advantage. Button was, over 3 seasons, the higher performer in points scoring. Hamilton maybe fast but he really needs to sort his head to deliver over the course of what will be a fraught season.Anon123 wrote:Monaco often brings out the worst in Hamilton probably because it's such a frustrating track, I expect things to get better from now on.SGeorge wrote:Rosberg, whether intentional or not, has shown up yet again a major weak point in Hamilton's game. There is an almost "pre-set" reaction that the team is against him - Not the qualy incident (be that on purpose or not) but with Hamilton almost deperate pleas via his radio messages - he is saying he doesnt think the team back him, and openly questioning strategists on game plan. If he doesnt feel comfortable with the team, and they end up having a titanic battle all year, I can see there being internal fireworks that Rosberg will benefit from.
No question Hamilton is a gifted driver, one that is the fastest on his day - but this petulance is not making him endearing, and maybe his downfall in the long run!
Fully expect a Hamilton victory next time out in Canada, but he cannot allow his head to be clouded with anger and suspicion as it has done before. He seems to be a driver that needs harmonious atmosphere but seems unwilling to work to create it.
How about hypocritical? Whining in malaysia 2013 about multi21 and then keeping a silly long face for the entire season until his retirement, yet at the same time conveniently forgetting silverstone 2011.djos wrote: Show me where Mark has been less than honest and upfront with folks?
Due to 5 less retirements Button scored a total of 15 points moreSGeorge wrote:SparkyAMG - you say it there, stats can be manipulated. Fact is, over 3 seasons in the same car, Button was better at getting points. There is no argument for that, it is a fact.
I get the retirement piece, and how it obviously has affected the results - but Hamilton was off form in 2011 due to personal things, he wasnt the same driver he usually was - things affect him too much sometimes.George-Jung wrote:Due to 5 less retirements Button scored a total of 15 points moreSGeorge wrote:SparkyAMG - you say it there, stats can be manipulated. Fact is, over 3 seasons in the same car, Button was better at getting points. There is no argument for that, it is a fact.
At least one of the retirements of Hamilton was from the leading spot at Abu Dhabi, which costed Hamilton 25points.
I agree, but I still find it somewhat troublesome. Lewis is without a doubt one of the most naturally gifted drivers on the grid, he should have annihilated Button who may be consistent, but who is also far from being exceptional.SparkyAMG wrote:
My comments are biased towards Hamilton to show how easily it is that statistics can be manipulated. The truth about who performed better over 3 years is probably somewhere in the middle of what their head to head stats say and what their overall points say.
In my opinion Hamilton edged it though.