Ferrari F14T

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Interesting pic posted on Omnicorse 8)

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Please help me get up to speed, what is so interesting about the pic?

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George-Jung wrote:Please help me get up to speed, what is so interesting about the pic?
The new rear brake basket duct...

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TechF1 wrote:
George-Jung wrote:Please help me get up to speed, what is so interesting about the pic?
The new rear brake basket duct...
Sorry for ask but do you have and old photo of the brake, so we can see the difference? Thanks :)

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johnsonwax wrote:
Bob Brown wrote:But the lower turbo lowers the center of mass, and frees up sidepods area.
I suspect that it comes out worse. The turbo is being lowered but is closer to the center of mass. The influence of mass is proportionate to the square of the distance, and the added mass of the water intercooler is quite high up. On paper it probably looked a little slower in the corners but higher enough power/more aero to compensate. Unfortunately against the Mercedes, it's neither yet, though they might do well against RB on the high speed tracks.
I know this was pointed out in another post but it is worth further clarification. The distance of any mass from the COG is only relevant to Moment of Inertia (MOI) calculations and the contribution of each mass is proportional to that distance squared. The total MOI value is sometimes referred to as "Roll Moment of Inertia" - not to be confused with "Roll Moment" see below. RMOI is "the tendency of the car to maintain its rotational speed about the roll axis" or if you prefer "the tendency to resist angular acceleration about the roll axis"

The contribution to CGH is proportional to distance (height actually) - not squared - and it is CGH that determines the tendancy of the car to roll in corners (this is "Roll Moment" - the torque that is trying to roll the car over during cornering). "Roll Moment" is completely different to RMOI.
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Blackout wrote:That means
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http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/14/79/55/26/edfwvc19.jpg
NO. As you can see in this pic turbo and compressor are splitted too but less than on the merc PU.

The duct feeding the compressor is between the turbo and the compressor.

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BoxStop wrote:
TechF1 wrote:
George-Jung wrote:Please help me get up to speed, what is so interesting about the pic?
The new rear brake basket duct...
Sorry for ask but do you have and old photo of the brake, so we can see the difference? Thanks :)
Spain:
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Monaco:
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But anyway it's a really new thing :lol:

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I bet this development is specific for Monaco, maybe Singapore too?
There's a great difference in cooling requirements for Barcelona and Monaco: in Monaco speed is lower, so less air goes in to cool the brake and you have to open as many holes as you can.
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I think it has more to do, to get the tyres in a better temp. range be heating them from the inside from the brake discs..

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This thread is about actual, real parts on the 14T, not about hypothetical strategies for development of the 14T and for next years' car. Please stay on topic.

p.s. I asked nicely, you didn't listen, so your posts got deleted.

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It is the same, in reality 'Ferrari has used what little Friday' as well as in spain in monaco, while Ferrari has used the big one in the race and qualifying
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
zioture wrote:
what are the changes in Monte Carlo?

Look at the difference in size of the central cooling outlet.

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How can the image of the Ferrari in the rain be the Monaco race or Qualifying?

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f1316 wrote:How can the image of the Ferrari in the rain be the Monaco race or Qualifying?
FP2 was rain.

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nismo wrote:
f1316 wrote:How can the image of the Ferrari in the rain be the Monaco race or Qualifying?
FP2 was rain.
But doesn't the picture claim it was taken in Qualification?

But we believe the Author that Ferrari used the exactly same engine cover at both GP's.

IMO they simply choose the enigne cover(cooling exit) looking at the temperatures at each GP. No real developement and performance differnator

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McMrocks wrote:
nismo wrote:
f1316 wrote:How can the image of the Ferrari in the rain be the Monaco race or Qualifying?
FP2 was rain.
But doesn't the picture claim it was taken in Qualification?

But we believe the Author that Ferrari used the exactly same engine cover at both GP's.

IMO they simply choose the enigne cover(cooling exit) looking at the temperatures at each GP. No real developement and performance differnator
I may be wrong, I have seen the small engine cover on Friday used both in Spain and in Monte Carlo and then they used the big engine cover in the race and qualifications also in Spain and Monte Carlo