F1 2014 Car Comparison Thread

[Sevach]

[FoxHound]

Nice photo of how the different teams use the heat to hit the beam wing.

[beelsebob]

Nice photo of how the different teams use the heat to hit the beam wing.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2z5iwhw.jpg

Interesting actually that the hot air exits are so much cooler on the RedBull. The implication of that is that Renault's excuses about RedBull's cooling being crap were bullshit, and instead, RedBull are having to run the Renault engine cooler than the Ferrari/Merc engines can take.

[roadie]

Nice photo of how the different teams use the heat to hit the beam wing.

What beam wing?

[FoxHound]

Nice photo of how the different teams use the heat to hit the beam wing.

What beam wing?

The suspension arm. Larger and more aerodynamic to make up for the beam wing not being present this year.
My bad, a habitual thing....but thanks for the spot.

[Sevach]

You know that this air is travelling at slower speed than the air going around the pods don't you?

[FoxHound]

You know that this air is travelling at slower speed than the air going around the pods don't you?

Of course, but there is a definite advantage to hitting that spot with the excess hot air. Why else would they do it?

[Sevach]

Both things have to be there, there aren't many options for hot air exits anymore, and the suspension/driveshaft envelope can't be moved (much).
It's slow air going over and aero neutral piece, nothing to make out of it.

Mercedes had a different hot air exit at start of the season, and since then went for this Red Bull like design, but i believe better flow over the bodywork was the intention.
Ferrari also made it's bodywork tighter and more "wavy".

[Blackout]

the implication my interpretation of that is that Renault's excuses about RedBull's cooling being crap were bullshit, and instead, RedBull are having to run the Renault engine cooler than the Ferrari/Merc engines can take.

Was the RBR in a hot lap in that pic?
Would the fact that the RB10 is using air to air intercoolers instead of air-water systems partly explain that difference?
Maybe it's just a photoshop, not a thermal cam
etc
And dont forget the RBR seems to be stronger in this ''engine track'' (and Bahrain too) than the Ferrari... they had roughly the same top speed in FP3. And the RBR wernt running a 'monza spec' rear wing as some people seem to think : )

[FoxHound]

@blackout

Good point re when and in what situation that picture was taken. That ferrari appears close to the "wall of champions" whereas the merc and red bull appear to be leaving the pits. Could be wrong.

[FoxHound]

@sevach

That could well be the case. But would a combination of hot and cold air in that region not provide a benefit?

[Blackout]

Are you sure it's not a photoshop? the RB10's monkey seat must be black not partly orange... someone colored the outlets ornage IMO but didnt pay attention to the monkey seat and the arms...

[FoxHound]

I got the source pic from Alberto Rodriguez off twitter.
Somersf1 retweeted, so this could be photoshopped as it looks a bit too "clean".

[Pierce89]

Nice photo of how the different teams use the heat to hit the beam wing.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2z5iwhw.jpg

Interesting actually that the hot air exits are so much cooler on the RedBull. The implication of that is that Renault's excuses about RedBull's cooling being crap were bullshit, and instead, RedBull are having to run the Renault engine cooler than the Ferrari/Merc engines can take.

If that was the case the Red Bull would be moving MORE heat out of the back of the sidepod, not less. Besides, this level of difference obviously shows different conditions and/or location.

[Sevach]

@sevach

That could well be the case. But would a combination of hot and cold air in that region not provide a benefit?

I'd say get the exhaust blown diffuser out of your head, there's no easy substitute, and hot air with no "energy" is just hot.