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Sergio Perez has been given a 5-place grid penalty for his coming together with Felipe Massa in the final lap of the Canadian Grand Prix, FIA stewards have announced after the race.
Completely agree.foxmulder_ms wrote:I dont understand these warnings. If some broke the rules, they should punish them. Is there anything about the "warning" system. Do they have to warn someone before punishing?
Rosberg also made a slight error into t10.ringo wrote: Saying that, he got pole by a few hundreths, and that's with a Hamilton Error. Hamilton error free beats Rosberg by 2 to 5 tenths.
Only logical explanation is something like half the field or more broke the rules and penalizing everyone would bring more chaos rather than more order.foxmulder_ms wrote:I dont understand these warnings. If some broke the rules, they should punish them. Is there anything about the "warning" system. Do they have to warn someone before punishing?
Ultimate lap time (best sector times added together):ringo wrote:Saying that, he got pole by a few hundreths, and that's with a Hamilton Error. Hamilton error free beats Rosberg by 2 to 5 tenths.
Maybe you should watch Bahrain, Singapore or Brazil last year - where Rosberg was not a few hundredths, but significantly faster than Hamilton.He knows the bench mark, but he doesn't know how to go beyond that. So we will see a few of these hundreths Q3 everytime he beats Lewis.
Maybe there were breaches that weren't "persistent or serious"?markn93 wrote:Completely agree.foxmulder_ms wrote:I dont understand these warnings. If some broke the rules, they should punish them. Is there anything about the "warning" system. Do they have to warn someone before punishing?
I don't think Rosberg is faster but this is just BS.ringo wrote:Naahhh... He's the best student of the sport. I think he's a good learner, but left to his own devices to put in a hot lap i don't think he's naturally quicker. He has been using an iterative process of hamilton's data to pin point where he's slower.Kingshark wrote:I'm going to stick my neck out here: Rosberg is the fastest man in F1 over 1 lap in the dry.
The reason to why I specify dry weather, is because rain is a bit of his weakness.
Rosberg's beating Hamilton 10-9 in dry qualifying as teammates, but in the wet he is 6-1 down.
I also think that he is faster than Vettel and Ricciardo (two other worthy contenders).
If he sees where hamilton brakes later or turns the car in a certain way, then he's going to throw caution to the wind and copy it. That's what we are witnessing. If he is to repeat that many times with changes in car weight and tyre conditions i don't think he's going to pull it off. So i wouldn't put it down to natural speed. His advantage is in his analytical skills.
And this is why he can't go much faster than Hamilton when he does outqualify him.
He knows the bench mark, but he doesn't know how to go beyond that. So we will see a few of these hundreths Q3 everytime he beats Lewis.
Saying that, he got pole by a few hundreths, and that's with a Hamilton Error. Hamilton error free beats Rosberg by 2 to 5 tenths.
So until you have a situation where both put in their best laps then maybe you have an argument.
Button himself has had some decent qualy sessions against Lewis, even when Lewis has made no apparent error. I'm yet to see that with Rosberg. He's fast no doubt, but not faster than Hamilton.
Rosberg was using the exact same brakes as Hamilton in 2013. The excuses are getting ridiculous, when Lewis out-performs Nico it's because of his talent. When Nico out-performs Lewis it's always because of something external.ringo wrote:I'll not get into the back and forth about whos faster, so last post on this. 2013 had much to do with hamilton's confidence with FRIC and the braking.
Exactly! Canada is always gonna produce close times with these Regulations.mnmracer wrote:Everyone noticed how close qualifying was at the front, but a lot of grid positions were actually split by a hair!
- Rosberg-Hamilton, split by only 0.079s.
- Vettel-Bottas-Massa-Ricciardo, split by only 0.041s.
- Vergne-Button-Raikkonen, split by only 0.052s.
- Hulkenberg-Magnussen, split by only 0.010s
- Grosjean-Kvyat, split by only 0.026s.
- Maldonado-Chilton-Bianchi, split by only 0.031s.
Not if Nico is short on fuel towards the end, Lewis can still push while Nico if lifting and coasting.beelsebob wrote:Eh, fuel saving points to being better at the start of the race, not the end.Unc1eM0nty wrote:Do you think Merc will 1 or 2 stop ?
Lewis will want to pass early so he has the first call on stratergy, he was faster on the soft tyres though, this and his fuel saving both point to Lewis being stronger towards the end of the race, the long game is not really his style though is it ? he'll be all over him like a rash, that's if he doesn't jump him at the start of course.
I think that was Lewis's was hoping for in Monaco.Unc1eM0nty wrote:Not if Nico is short on fuel towards the end, Lewis can still push while Nico if lifting and coasting.beelsebob wrote:Eh, fuel saving points to being better at the start of the race, not the end.Unc1eM0nty wrote:Do you think Merc will 1 or 2 stop ?
Lewis will want to pass early so he has the first call on stratergy, he was faster on the soft tyres though, this and his fuel saving both point to Lewis being stronger towards the end of the race, the long game is not really his style though is it ? he'll be all over him like a rash, that's if he doesn't jump him at the start of course.
It meant remember the rules on fuel flow, we're going to enforce them *cough* red bull *cough*.ecapox wrote:Did anyone read that technical directive sent out by charlie this morning?? I didn't understand it and what it meant.
Yeah, and Nico did have to go into fuel saving mode for 3 or 4 laps, at Monaco this doesn't make any difference, it is possible to pass here though.dans79 wrote: I think that was Lewis's was hoping for in Monaco.