2014 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal

[Sevach]

http://globoesporte.globo.com/blogs/esp ... ixo/1.html

The hellicopter cam pretty much clears Felipe.

[WaikeCU]

Max Chilton has been given a three-place grid penalty for the Austrian Grand Prix after colliding with Marussia team-mate Jules Bianchi.

You would think that they have a better penalty system than putting a backmarker at the back anyways.

Put him at the back facing the wrong way.

Naah jk, starting from the pit lane would do.

[the user]

Usually simple is better. And it has worked ok for the last 25 years.

lol seriously? Are you new to F1? I can't fathom how many arguments I've read about how a championship was decided based on the points scoring system. If it was so great, why do they keep changing it?

How many times has it changed in the past 25 years?

Yes, I'm serious. And I'm not new to F1. They have changed the amount of points a certain position is worth but for the last 24 (yeah, sorry not 25, I was wrong on that one) years all season results have counted to the final point tally.

Well, one reason for changing the points system - improved reliability of the cars over the years. Twenty years ago Marussia/Caterham with their good reliability would certainly have earned more than one points paying position. But now that most of the cars usually finish the race - it's practically impossible for backmarkers to attain a good result (barring Monaco this year).

Interestingly, if we had a system where the champion is the driver with most wins over a season - Massa would have been champion in 2008 (only different champion 2007-2013, couldn't be bothered to check more)

Basically - why reinvent the wheel when drivers and the teams are okay with it...

[sennaf1god.94]

I´m looking into team´s typical slow and erratic pitstops, they are repeating this bad performances again and again during the racing sundays.

Massa and Bottas were both ahead of the RedBulls before the first round of pitstops, and both left the pitlane well behind them after another bad show from the pitcrew, and in Bottas case bad pitwall calls.

Massa´s first pitstop only served to pretty much ruin his podium chances, and only a brilliant drive (achieving the fastest race lap in the process) put his Williams car up in front, and far ahead of his teammate, to fight for a slight chance of winning the race in the last 10 laps thanks to a fair engine superiority. A chance that was gone when Perez blocked his last attempt to overtake the Force India car in front.



Without Williams pitwall incompetence Massa would be easily third after the second round of pitstops, and looking at the misfailures of the Mercedes duo, the brazilian should had been reasonably the deserving winner today.

The Williams team seems to be obsesed trying to underachieve each Sunday while enjoying the second best car on the grid, we know why they finished pretty much in the botton of the standings last year: racecrew mediocrity.

If they can´t manage to even get a podium with a winning car... If RedBull were running this cars, I bet all my money they would be leading both championchips by now. Even Marussia could have more points if they had Chilton and BIanchi driving these...

[mika vs michael]

Rosberg overshot the braking, missed the chicane, floored it, cut the chicane, got fastest lap because of that at the moment, gained unfair advantage. if the metal bar on the track had no opening then Rosberg should go over it carefully not to damage his car, meaning he'd lose time. would that time be enough for lewis to overtake him there? I think Mercedes wants a german driver to get the WDC for them. Rosberg should give the position back to Hamilton because he maintained it because of cutting the chicane. and maintaining something when you were to lose it, looks like gaining an advantage. In the same sense Hamilton should not give the position back to Rosberg.

Ferrari were as if they never appeared on the track.
Redbull is the second fastest team.

All teams except for Mercedes should perform harakiri...an injured Merc was still faster than most of them and they could not overtake.
Big time losers...Redbull is the one only who could pose some threat if they had a better engine.

[sknguy]

Good win by Riciardo. =D>.... Massa proved again why he's not a #1 driver. Not because of the crash, but because of his failure to get vettel....

Mass'a best chance certainly was when Vettel ran deep at the T10 hairpin (Lap 63-64?). And Massa was out-dragging Vettel heading onto the stratight. I saw Massa's rear wing flip open once they crossed into the DRS zone and it looked like Massa was going to easily take the position. Then, for some reason, Massa's wing was closed while he was dragging with Vettel down the straight. The cameras didn't catch where the wing closed though. But at that point Massa wasn't going to be able to effect a pass because he had full rear wing? Did Massa hit his brake at some point deactivating his DRS? Either way, lost opportunity there.

[AnthonyG]

I had the impression Massa's problem was setup related, Williams chosing a setup that's easier on the tires but also doesn't give traction like the RB or Merc.

[Mandrake]

The chicane incident is nothing. Lewis was not alongside or even close to pass there, Nico just braked too late. Had he tried to make the chicane, he would have slowed down massively and blocked Hamilton. Would have been a drag race to turn 1 which I'm sure rosberg would have used to stay in front.

In Spain and Bahrain, rosberg was the faster driver but couldn't get past Hamilton. Today Hamilton appeared to be quicker but could not get past. Tough luck vettel would say. Only the botched pitstop for rosberg opened the chances for Hamilton to pass.

[Morteza]

https://vine.co/v/MD07j6lMTeW

That is how fast a Mercedes-powered car is But man that was close...

[dans79]

Today Hamilton appeared to be quicker but could not get past.

Actually he did, but then retired half a lap later.

[iotar__]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpoqzP6CQAAkvM-.jpg

The stewards agreed.

1. One still proves everything. 2. The same type of stewards that for two collisions in one race gave a reprimand but at worst 50/50 (OK I need to re-watch it ) with difficult to handle slower car - 5 places?

My trust in stewarding is at all time lowest so I'd say that Perez got a slap on the wrist for almost spoiling big teams internal F1 championship kindergarten. They really need all the help in the world with drivers like that (Vett, Ricci). Look at Williams: they did everything to not to fight for the win with Massa, Force India is yet to learn. Stupid Perez should have been cutting corners when out of Ricciardo's DRS range, as if it was not a direct fight, gaining time and waiting for "final warning" or whatever it was called. Oh yes, stewards agreed.

Somehow Ricciardo didn't have problems to not to crush into taking weird lines Perez but Massa had to glue himself to his back, what was his plan anyway? At least Ferrari embarrassingly wasn't there with "we can't afford decent engine program like Merc but we can waste over 10+ million on comic relief driving".

[Mandrake]

Today Hamilton appeared to be quicker but could not get past.

Actually he did, but then retired half a lap later.

Thanks to the slow pit stop of rosberg. On track he could not pass, even though some of you rumor him to be several tenths quicker....

[beelsebob]

The chicane incident is nothing. Lewis was not alongside or even close to pass there, Nico just braked too late. Had he tried to make the chicane, he would have slowed down massively and blocked Hamilton. Would have been a drag race to turn 1 which I'm sure rosberg would have used to stay in front.

The issue is that Rosberg out braked himself. Had he actually tried to stay on track he would have had to make a much sharper turn, and slow down much more significantly. Instead, he made nearly no turn, and floored it. Had that mistake happened somewhere where there were walls, he absolutely would have lost the position, no question. For that reason, I'd suggest that he absolutely did keep the lead by using the run off area, and absolutely should have been at least forced to give Hamilton the position.

In Spain and Bahrain, rosberg was the faster driver but couldn't get past Hamilton. Today Hamilton appeared to be quicker but could not get past. Tough luck vettel would say. Only the botched pitstop for rosberg opened the chances for Hamilton to pass.

Actually, he did get past, he just retired shortly after.

[Glyn]

Did Rosberg do the wheel shuffle when he went off the track to gain 1 second....

[dans79]

Today Hamilton appeared to be quicker but could not get past.

Actually he did, but then retired half a lap later.

Thanks to the slow pit stop of rosberg. On track he could not pass, even though some of you rumor him to be several tenths quicker....

You do realize Lewis lost 0.6 seconds during the first stop right? He came out 2 seconds back and then proceeded to run him down before the second stop.