McLaren have finally announced their new driver line-up for 2015 as it embarks on a new era with Honda power. While Fernando Alonso joins from Ferrari, Jenson Button is retained as a racing racing. Kevin Magnussen will stay at the team as test and reserve driver.
Well, Button said he was really struggling with the supersoft but the soft was fine. Let's see if this is going to be the same in Austria.enkidu1978 wrote:Notice how the last two races Button has come alive after the first and some way into the second stint??? I’m wondering if they got two problems, one they not warming up tyres over one lap in qually and the other that trick suspension working better lighter fuel loads?
I suppose it's possible the extra weight compresses the suspension and they get a little more air leakage underneath.enkidu1978 wrote:Notice how the last two races Button has come alive after the first and some way into the second stint??? I’m wondering if they got two problems, one they not warming up tyres over one lap in qually and the other that trick suspension working better lighter fuel loads?
Well, this is one problem: The suspension...it is just very hard to set up and works only in a small weight/temperature range.enkidu1978 wrote:Notice how the last two races Button has come alive after the first and some way into the second stint??? I’m wondering if they got two problems, one they not warming up tyres over one lap in qually and the other that trick suspension working better lighter fuel loads?
Imagine if they 'cracked' it though?basti313 wrote:Well, this is one problem: The suspension...it is just very hard to set up and works only in a small weight/temperature range.enkidu1978 wrote:Notice how the last two races Button has come alive after the first and some way into the second stint??? I’m wondering if they got two problems, one they not warming up tyres over one lap in qually and the other that trick suspension working better lighter fuel loads?
It was the same with Merc in 2012. They were sometimes doing incredible stints or whole races with their interconnected suspension and most of the time they were nowhere.
Well, it took two seasons for Merc to be where they are now: Developing the setup of the interconnected suspension to work not only occasionally (what they had in 2012), but on every track for the full race, what they have for 2014.enkidu1978 wrote:Imagine if they 'cracked' it though?basti313 wrote:Well, this is one problem: The suspension...it is just very hard to set up and works only in a small weight/temperature range.enkidu1978 wrote:Notice how the last two races Button has come alive after the first and some way into the second stint??? I’m wondering if they got two problems, one they not warming up tyres over one lap in qually and the other that trick suspension working better lighter fuel loads?
It was the same with Merc in 2012. They were sometimes doing incredible stints or whole races with their interconnected suspension and most of the time they were nowhere.
I do not think they did not have one before. But they had obviously a completely different, very stiff suspension on the 2012 car. In 2013 they went for more rake and a soft rear suspension. This makes another sort of interconnected suspension necessary. One which controls the front height on the straights to keep the splitter from hitting the ground too much, but just having it touching the ground. Redbull is perfect on this...Pierce89 wrote:What makes you think Mclaren didn't have an interconnected suspension before last year? Hell, Marussia started 2013 with one.
Anyways the reason I posted is... how do Mobil1 develop fuel? I'm pretty sure they have no access to the Merc engine. If they're doing it all through computer simulation and past experience.... sheesh! No wonder they're behind Petronas.
I think its about time to clearly see some different parts on the MP4-29, otherwise it will be one more disappointment.KingHamilton01 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114406 I think this confirm's what I said previously about the team having to wait for something significant to arrive aero wise on the car because of the restructuring. Excited to see what McLaren bring with them, sound's like we could see this slimmer sidepod's finger's crossed!
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
You're talking about different setup philosophies, not different types of suspension. All the large teams have been running interconnected suspensions for a fair few years, but Merc is the only one proven to have the large amount of hydraulic wizardry,so far.basti313 wrote:I do not think they did not have one before. But they had obviously a completely different, very stiff suspension on the 2012 car. In 2013 they went for more rake and a soft rear suspension. This makes another sort of interconnected suspension necessary. One which controls the front height on the straights to keep the splitter from hitting the ground too much, but just having it touching the ground. Redbull is perfect on this...Pierce89 wrote:What makes you think Mclaren didn't have an interconnected suspension before last year? Hell, Marussia started 2013 with one.
Anyways the reason I posted is... how do Mobil1 develop fuel? I'm pretty sure they have no access to the Merc engine. If they're doing it all through computer simulation and past experience.... sheesh! No wonder they're behind Petronas.
So, it is nothing that is not obvious that they have a new suspension since 2013. You can see it by looking at the different aero-solution/rake.
Too confident in my opinion. They should focus on beating FI regularly and not on catching RB. I hope that this is not going to be a story like "we'll be .5s faster in Malaysia". A good small step is what i expect.KingHamilton01 wrote:http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08982 sounding confident to!
