2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

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JimClarkFan wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:I think Williams are making a mistake pitting now

They should have stayed out in a clear track and waited until they were clear of the pack imo, or go long
Very very poor strategy from Williams. Once mercedes went for the undercut their best bet was surely to stay out and hope the Mercs get caught in traffic. :?: :?: :?:
Yeah, they managed to drop Massa from P1 to P4. He must be livid.

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zeph wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:I think Williams are making a mistake pitting now

They should have stayed out in a clear track and waited until they were clear of the pack imo, or go long
Very very poor strategy from Williams. Once mercedes went for the undercut their best bet was surely to stay out and hope the Mercs get caught in traffic. :?: :?: :?:
Yeah, they managed to drop Massa from P1 to P4. He must be livid.
it's ridiculous

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Another slow stop for Hamilton

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I think as soon as the first merc pitted, Williams made the best choice, they lost out slightly and Massa's stop taken a bit too long, but in the end it was the best choice.
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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And another pitstop, and now Massa is behind Perez. Brilliant.

Not.
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AnthonyG wrote:I think as soon as the first merc pitted, Williams made the best choice, they lost out slightly and Massa's stop taken a bit too long, but in the end it was the best choice.
I don't have times, but I'm going to stick my neck out and say they would have been faster staying out front in the clean air than they were by pitting into traffic. Once Merc did the undercut you have to do something different.

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They screwed Rosberg again with pitstop, this time with sequence, nice one Mercedes.

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iotar__ wrote:They screwed Rosberg again with pitstop, this time with sequence, nice one Mercedes.
And yet there is another guy complaining that Mercs are giving Hamilton slow pit stops.

Lets just drop this nonsense. There are clearly 3 interpretations

1- *moan* *moan*, Hamilton being given poor stops
2- *moan* *moan* Rosberg being screwed in the pit stops
3- Makes no odds, conspiracy is unlikely, who cares, lets move on

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Yeah, you're right. Totally screwed Rosberg. Should have pitted him first, so that they'll end up with a 1, 3 instead of 1, 2. Great job Mercedes.

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JimClarkFan wrote:Lets just drop this nonsense. There are clearly 3 interpretations

1- *moan* *moan*, Hamilton being given poor stops
2- *moan* *moan* Rosberg being screwed in the pit stops
3- Makes no odds, conspiracy is unlikely, who cares, lets move on
Hamilton has had a ~1s slower stop than Rosberg several times this season.

I don't think it's a conspiracy.

I'm a Hamilton fan. I care.

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How ironic would it be if Massa and Perez crashed again...
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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Waywardism wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:Lets just drop this nonsense. There are clearly 3 interpretations

1- *moan* *moan*, Hamilton being given poor stops
2- *moan* *moan* Rosberg being screwed in the pit stops
3- Makes no odds, conspiracy is unlikely, who cares, lets move on
Hamilton has had a ~1s slower stop than Rosberg several times this season.

I don't think it's a conspiracy.

I'm a Hamilton fan. I care.
If you give me a spss file with pitstop times, I'll be happy to figure out for you wether or not that's suspicious.
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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AnthonyG wrote:
Waywardism wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:Lets just drop this nonsense. There are clearly 3 interpretations

1- *moan* *moan*, Hamilton being given poor stops
2- *moan* *moan* Rosberg being screwed in the pit stops
3- Makes no odds, conspiracy is unlikely, who cares, lets move on
Hamilton has had a ~1s slower stop than Rosberg several times this season.

I don't think it's a conspiracy.

I'm a Hamilton fan. I care.
If you give me a spss file with pitstop times, I'll be happy to figure out for you wether or not that's suspicious.
Come on wayward, hand over the data.

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Can Alonso pull a rabbit out of his helmet?

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Funnily enough alonso is faster than both williams cars by quite a margin.