Fasteners used in Formula 1

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Edis
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riff_raff wrote:n smikle,

Lots of titanium fasteners are used because they are lightweight and have good compatibility with carbon composites. Care must be taken with titanium fasteners though, since their threads readily tend to gall/seize. Titanium is also very notch sensitive, so any fastener that is nicked or gouged must be replaced.

Multiphase steel alloys (like MP35N) are used where very high strength is needed, but not corrosion resistance.

718 Inconel has a good combination of strength, corrosion resistance and high temperature capability.

13-8PH stainless has good strength and corrosion resistance.

Hope that helps.
riff_raff
The cobalt nickel alloys MP35N and MP159 actually have a better corrosion resistance than nickel based superalloys such as Inconel 718. They offer a higher strength too, but cobalt alloys are expensive. They are usually the choice for high temperature corrosive environments where alloys such as Inconel isn't up to the task.

http://www.spstech.com/aero/prod_lit/su ... ochure.pdf

For fasteners attached to carbon fibre bits titanium is a good choice since it's a very noble metal, close to graphite in the galvanic series.

Of course, a high quality screw is forged and has rolled threads.

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Edis,

Thanks for the correction.

I checked my references on multiphase alloys and they do have good resistance to corrosive environments and stress corrosion. However, an active coating such as cadmium is required where multiphase will contact aluminum, to prevent galvanic corrosion of the aluminum.

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Sorry to dig up the old thread, just in case someone still has any interest in this.

On F1 engines they do not cad plate aluminum when in contact with MP alloys, simply because the short life usage of the joint. MP alloys are very strong, both in tensile and shear. Very good corrosion resistance and off course due to the composition (high % of cobalt and nickel) very heavy compared to steel. They are still used on F1 engine etc...

Some years back most of the fasteners were specially designed for F1. Use of standard aerospace fasteners was limited to some non-critical parts. Bear in mind most of the aerospace fasteners are in Inch threads, while most of the F1 application require Metric. But dut to cost cuts, engine freeze, rev limiting and titanium being banned, they started using more and more standards.

Hope it helps, cheers

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DaveKillens wrote:Here's a simple application that is very common. It's basically six bolts torqued down, and secured by safety wire.

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I'm sure that those who know aviation would fail this safety wire attempt. The idea for safety wire is first, to keep the bolt from backing out, and secondly, if it does back out, to minimize the damage. If you examine the bolt at 12 o'clock, it is obvious the bolt could back out quite a bit before the safety wire contained it. The bolts at 2, 6, and 10 o'clock aren't going anywhere, although I would do over 10 o'clock because the safety wire appears to be handled harshly, and has a few odd bends that don't belong.

The actual wire for the job has to be considered carefully, just any old iron wire won't do. In my day, inconel was the standard.

Here's a specialized tool just for the job.
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I like this model because it has some rubber between the cutting jaws. Think it through, you are safety wiring, and complete the final twist. Then you cut the wire back ...... but you're not doing your job if that short cut of wire flies off and lodges itself in some important position. So the rubber captures the cut wire, and allows the technician to do a proper job without spreading wire and crap around the aircraft/car.
Old school would have done this as one unit instead of 3 separate ones,... by hand and not use the pliers. The pliers can damage the wire creating a place for it to break...

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slime,

Lock wire is definitely "old school" in the modern aircraft industry. It is almost never used on new aircraft designs. Instead, self-locking fasteners are now the preferred approach.

In fact, the specific example shown in the photo would not be acceptable under FAA FAR part 25 regulations, even if the lock wiring were done correctly. FAR part 25 requires flight critical fasteners (like those prop bolts) to have 2 separate forms of locking device. The safety wire would only provide 1 form of locking.

With bolts that are clamping a structure that is subject to creep/relaxation (like a wooden prop), the proper dual-locking fastener installation would be something like through bolts and self-locking castellated nuts secured with cotter pins.

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riff_raff wrote:slime,

Lock wire is definitely "old school" in the modern aircraft industry. It is almost never used on new aircraft designs. Instead, self-locking fasteners are now the preferred approach.

In fact, the specific example shown in the photo would not be acceptable under FAA FAR part 25 regulations, even if the lock wiring were done correctly. FAR part 25 requires flight critical fasteners (like those prop bolts) to have 2 separate forms of locking device. The safety wire would only provide 1 form of locking.

With bolts that are clamping a structure that is subject to creep/relaxation (like a wooden prop), the proper dual-locking fastener installation would be something like through bolts and self-locking castellated nuts secured with cotter pins.

Regards,
riff_raff
safety wire is still used quite a bit in even new aircraft. Even more so on rotating parts.

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In most cases where I've used safety wire, they are meant for blind threaded bolts, where you can't/don't use a nut on the other side....

While there are self locking bolt(and even self mechanically locking thread, done with special tap), a safety wired bolt in those blind thread is just a fail-safe mechanism....

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You'll have to be more specific about what you want to know; they use all kinds of fasteners for various purposes.

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IF you follow the sport closely, it is obvious that the lowly wing nut is used extensively! :lol:
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There is a thread for this already... It is somewhere in here....
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No idea what spec fasteners the teams use, but I would imagine there is a lot of cross over from aircraft fasteners. Have a look through this parts catalogue to get an idea of the various types available.
http://aircrafthardwarecatalog.com/imag ... _Final.pdf

This light read has some info on different fasteners in Leaflet E-30, chapter 20 and 51-100.
https://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx? ... tail&id=92
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Bump for merged threads.

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A large amount of fasteners (certainly at the places where I have worked) were standard Unbrako fasteners from the catologue. Mainly Cap heads, sometimes Six Lobe (Torx) for applications where a low head is required.

If anything more sturdy is required (as previously mentioned) specially made MP35N and 13-8PH fasteners are often used. S690 is used for studs as well.

Standard Kayloc Nuts are the generally used nuts and more use is being made of studs with a wasted shank and and a nut rather than Cap Heads, certainly at least one team has 'banned' the use of cap heads in favor of studs and nuts.

A new requirement of fasteners that has come up more this year is for Non-Magnetic fasteners to not intefere with the ERS hardware, thus more stainless steel fasteners are being used.

Aluminum parts are often fitted with a Keensert/ThreadInsert/Timeserts for the fasteners rather than using a thread directly into the aluminium.
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riff_raff wrote:slime,

Lock wire is definitely "old school" in the modern aircraft industry. It is almost never used on new aircraft designs. Instead, self-locking fasteners are now the preferred approach.

In fact, the specific example shown in the photo would not be acceptable under FAA FAR part 25 regulations, even if the lock wiring were done correctly. FAR part 25 requires flight critical fasteners (like those prop bolts) to have 2 separate forms of locking device. The safety wire would only provide 1 form of locking.

With bolts that are clamping a structure that is subject to creep/relaxation (like a wooden prop), the proper dual-locking fastener installation would be something like through bolts and self-locking castellated nuts secured with cotter pins.

Regards,
riff_raff
This is totally false in every way. Even with self lock fasteners they still use safety wire. Although not in the way that is shown in the picture that allows one screw to back out so much. Next time you go on a commercial flight look for an aircraft that has one of the engine cowlings open. You'll see tons of safety wired nuts and bolts in there. On the Turbomeca Arriel 2s2 and 1s1 engines that we operate in some of our helicopters some of the only critical components that aren't safety wired are the magnetic plugs in the oil system that pick up any metal shavings that happen to come off in the engine. These plugs have a safety feature that when pulled out self seals up the hole so even if one fell out in flight it wouldn't leak.

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Another good read for Fastener Heads:

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... gine+bolts