Formula E

[Andres125sx]

First FE test finished, Buemi the fastest



http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2014 ... -test.aspx

[Andres125sx]

First onboard lap ever!

The rain combined with the hard groved tires and the really low downforce makes them quite slow, but that means there will be a lots of overtakings in race

[Andres125sx]

Second test day, Di Grassi leads



Edit: the temporary chicane on the exit to the Old hairpin was removed after a number of drivers made contact with it, so the times can´t be compared with first day

1. Lucas di Grassi, Audi Sport Abt, 1:31.973s
2. Sebastien Buemi, e.dams-Renault, 1:32.089s
3. Nick Heidfeld, Venturi, 1:32.373s
4. Scott Speed, Andretti Autosport, 1:32.632s
5. Bruno Senna, Mahindra Racing, 1:32.960s
6. Antonio Garcia, China Racing, 1:32.966s
7. Nicolas Prost, e.dams-Renault, 1:33.040s
8. Sam Bird, Virgin Racing, 1:33.072s
9. Jerome d’Ambrosio, China Racing, 1:33.178s
10. Jarno Trulli, Trulli, 1:33.299s
11. Franck Montagny, Andretti Autosport, 1:33.754s
12. Fabio Leimer, Amlin Aguri, 1:33.792s
13. Stephane Sarrazin, Venturi, 1:34.006s
14. Katherine Legge, Amlin Aguri, 1:34.071s
15. Michela Cerruti, Trulli, 1:36.064s
16. Jaime Alguersuari, Virgin Racing, 1:36.962s
17. Karun Chandhok, Mahindra Racing, 1:37.415s
18. Oriol Servia, Dragon Racing, 1:43.239s
19. Mike Conway, Dragon Racing, 1:44.698s

*Absent: Daniel Abt, Audi Sport Abt

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2014 ... -test.aspx

[anu]

FIA Formula E Super .....

[mrluke]

Help me out here, are these testing times on the National Circuit? That would make Formula E 15 seconds slower than the clio cup?

Im very much hoping to be wrong here..

[Saribro]

Race-mode Formula-E is 180bhp.
Clio Renaultsport 200 is 197bhp.

Add some rain, early days in the development life of the car,... Maybe 15 seconds isn't all that odd?

[aleks_ader]

Race-mode Formula-E is 180bhp.
Clio Renaultsport 200 is 197bhp.

Add some rain, early days in the development life of the car,... Maybe 15 seconds isn't all that odd?

Comparing apples and bananas, that doesn't work so easy (track, temp, tires, down/drag ration, torque vs. power ration, all meh characteristics like roll, pich stiffness and CofG). For that statement we need evident proves? Do you had such credible information or simulation to support your theory (except peak ~HP numbers)?

[Cam]

Help me out here, are these testing times on the National Circuit? That would make Formula E 15 seconds slower than the clio cup?

Im very much hoping to be wrong here..

The great thing about FE, it doesn't need to promote itself as a 'speed' series. It's not. It's about 100% electric racing - however fast that is. So we should try to keep that in mind.

FE will get quicker. We all have much development to look forward too.

[MOWOG]

Here's a series where electric racers are as fast or faster than their piston engine rivals. http://evsr.net/

Keep in mind that in the first season, the motors in FE are limited to 180 hp, rising to 200 hp during short "push to pass" situations.

Also, unlike Formula One, the series has embraced social media. Starting July 1, fans can vote for their favorite drivers. The top three vote getters will be awarded an extra "push to pass" opportunity. It that hokey? Probably. But smart marketing, imho.

We will have to see how this series evolves. Right now, I would place the odds of it surviving more than 2 season at between 10 and 20%. But I have been wrong before.

Often........

[Andres125sx]

Help me out here, are these testing times on the National Circuit? That would make Formula E 15 seconds slower than the clio cup?

Im very much hoping to be wrong here..

Yes, it is the same.... only that you´re comparing a lap with the track wet and a lap with the track dry....

And you should also take account they´re using VERY hard groved tires

[Andres125sx]

Here's a series where electric racers are as fast or faster than their piston engine rivals. http://evsr.net/

Keep in mind that in the first season, the motors in FE are limited to 180 hp, rising to 200 hp during short "push to pass" situations.

Actually, 180bhp in race mode, and 270bhp in power mode

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/guide/car.aspx?page=1334

Too much difference IMO

[Andres125sx]

The great thing about FE, it doesn't need to promote itself as a 'speed' series. It's not. It's about 100% electric racing - however fast that is.

It´s not a "speed" series?

It is. It´s not that fast because it´s first electric single seater competition ever. People always want to compare with ICEs, but ICEs have been evolving for more than 50 years, while electric setups for racing are something completely new, no experience at all with motors, batteries, electronic speed controllers, battery managment units or even wiring.

The margin to improve is dramatic

[Tim.Wright]

...it´s first electric single seater competition ever.

Not quite. 20 years ago there was this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdhlc5-hUKc[/youtube]

[Andres125sx]

Didn´t know it, thanks

Then FE is first serious single seater electric competition, not held for college of engineering student teams

[Cam]

The great thing about FE, it doesn't need to promote itself as a 'speed' series. It's not. It's about 100% electric racing - however fast that is.

It´s not a "speed" series?

It is. It´s not that fast because it´s first electric single seater competition ever. People always want to compare with ICEs, but ICEs have been evolving for more than 50 years, while electric setups for racing are something completely new, no experience at all with motors, batteries, electronic speed controllers, battery managment units or even wiring.

I disagree. It isn't about speed. Even the website fails to mention 'speed' as a core concept.

The Championship centres around three core values of Energy, Environment and Entertainment and is a fusion of engineering, technology, sport, science, design, music and entertainment - all combining to drive the change towards an electric future.

FE is positioning itself as a 'show', not a speed fest.

Delivering a great show both on and off the track is central to the FIA Formula E Championship. With the aid of the latest technology, each event promises to be a fantastic spectacle from close racing and crowd interaction to paddock attractions and exhilarating music concerts...

It's actually smart to do this, unlike F1, which does promote 'speed' as it's single core focus, yet always backs away from it. FE can forge its own path and hopefully, people will like it. Being honest with the consumer base, is a good first start.