Ferrari F14T

[stefan_]

Great Britain Test Session - Tuesday (08.07.2014)

[nhojekim]

That looks like a new rear bodywork.

[rapha-78]

I don't think so

[nismo]

What session are they doing their version of the "go louder" exhaust? Those pictures still show with the single exhaust.

[diffuser]

How can the car be set for oversteer?

I always thought it was about adding more front end grip with higher front wing angles or reduced rear wing angles and having a more aggressive front suspension setting.

Toe settings, Camber settings, damper settings, ride height etc..

When someone says that the F14T is designed for Alonso and not Kimi, what does that mean?

Even the regulations do not allow for a weight distribution of more than 46.7% (previous years) over the front axil, so how does one design a car for Kimi?
The car has the following problems to start with:
1) Rear comes loose on entry into a corner (sudden loss of down force)
2) on exit car looses traction (sudden surge of engine power)

yeah, I think they build a car that both drivers can drive. There might be an issue if the drivers are giving different feed back, then you got to choose which one you resolve first. The drivers feed back could also be contradictory. From what we hear they are both complaining bout the same issues. So that isn't at issues here.

[jayeshrc]

I'm not sure how accurate (or complete in terms of the problem) this article is, but here it is anyway:

http://pitlanetalk.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... explained/

going by the article, and assuming the same problems still exist
1. i dont understand why the oversteer problem hasnt been fixed over 9 race weekends
2. aero fixes for a suspension setup issue? is this what everyone's been talking about since the reveal - that theres too much DF in front, the nose not allowing enough air flow back for rear DF? So then new nose sometime later or next year?

Also, i agree that maybe the range of suspension adjustment has been maxed out, so then why not change suspension parts? Changing aero could help but doing both would be better innit?

they also posted another article on ferrari's dual strategies (something that i'm sure shouldnt be a part of this thread, but an interesting enough read)

[mclaren_mircea]

Yesterday it was supposed that Ferrari tested for Pirelli. How was that possible that they tested parts and development job, if the other teams in the previous tests when they tested for Pirelli were doing just tyre work?

[FW17]

I'm not sure how accurate (or complete in terms of the problem) this article is, but here it is anyway:

http://pitlanetalk.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... explained/

That is a load of c**p written about adjusting a pull rod suspension

- almost everyone runs pull rod at the rear and no one disassembles the gearbox to adjust the suspension at the rear
- ferrari have sorted out access issue they had 2 seasons ago to make adjustments to the front faster
- the author thinks that the car when unpacked and run on Friday is straight of set for understeer, why?
- author also makes an assumption that pullrod suspension is not adjusted in any form (either for over steer or under steer) all through Friday as access is not easy
- pull rod is less responsive? where did he get that info?

[stefan_]

Great Britain Test - Wednesday (09.07.2014)

[Advino116]

2 front wing versions tested

[jayeshrc]

That is a load of c**p written about adjusting a pull rod suspension

- almost everyone runs pull rod at the rear and no one disassembles the gearbox to adjust the suspension at the rear
- ferrari have sorted out access issue they had 2 seasons ago to make adjustments to the front faster
- the author thinks that the car when unpacked and run on Friday is straight of set for understeer, why?
- author also makes an assumption that pullrod suspension is not adjusted in any form (either for over steer or under steer) all through Friday as access is not easy
- pull rod is less responsive? where did he get that info?

I thought on simiar lines as you, just didnt say too much because i wanted another opinion.. posted a few questions with as much restrain as i could muster

But yeah, could it be that they just dont have the range to adjust it for oversteer?

[SectorOne]

That´s cool, i have never seen a team put aero sensors so tightly around a tire before.

[Pierce89]

Yesterday it was supposed that Ferrari tested for Pirelli. How was that possible that they tested parts and development job, if the other teams in the previous tests when they tested for Pirelli were doing just tyre work?

Ferrari's tire test was scheduled for Wednsday.

[FW17]

That is a load of c**p written about adjusting a pull rod suspension

- almost everyone runs pull rod at the rear and no one disassembles the gearbox to adjust the suspension at the rear
- ferrari have sorted out access issue they had 2 seasons ago to make adjustments to the front faster
- the author thinks that the car when unpacked and run on Friday is straight of set for understeer, why?
- author also makes an assumption that pullrod suspension is not adjusted in any form (either for over steer or under steer) all through Friday as access is not easy
- pull rod is less responsive? where did he get that info?

I thought on simiar lines as you, just didnt say too much because i wanted another opinion.. posted a few questions with as much restrain as i could muster

But yeah, could it be that they just dont have the range to adjust it for oversteer?

Guess the set up from one driver to another is a lot more complex

I remember Montoya (who drives like Alonso with a understeer) having the same issue when he joined McLaren in 2005. In that case McLaren are said to have a complete different front suspension geometry to that of kimi's. I don't know what they changed but a lot was changed.

[Snelle Eddy]

So I see Red Bull are testing with blown wheelnuts today. What's the story with this concept on the Ferrari? Haven't seen them since before Canada. Anybody any knowledge about this?